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Report: Four Israeli Settlers Killed
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Posted on 06/20/2002 12:40:33 PM PDT by Jersey Kid

Report: Four Israeli Settlers Killed Thu Jun 20, 3:24 PM ET

JERUSALEM (AP) - Gunfire was reported after nightfall Thursday in Itamar, a West Bank Jewish settlement near the Palestinian city of Nablus, settlers said. Israel TV reported four people were killed.

The TV report said at least one infiltrator, apparently Palestinian, took over a house in the settlement.

Rescue worker Neri Ketoa said soldiers were exchanging gunfire with the infiltrators. However, settlers said soldiers had broken into the house. The differing accounts could not be immediately reconciled.

Police spokeswoman Ganit Wingrad said shots were heard inside the settlement. She said she had no details.

The settlement, where some of the most militant Israeli settlers in the West Bank live, is not fenced in. Settlers insist that the whole West Bank belongs to the Jews.

On May 29, a Palestinian gunman attacked a high school at the settlement, killing three Israeli teen-agers.


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1 posted on 06/20/2002 12:40:33 PM PDT by Jersey Kid
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To: Jersey Kid
These brave, heroic PLA fighters are fighting the evil zionist women and babies. Praise be to allah satan!
2 posted on 06/20/2002 12:43:53 PM PDT by freedomson
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To: Jersey Kid
It's due in part to Bush's middle east speech - ever delayed.
3 posted on 06/20/2002 12:48:49 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Jersey Kid
This is turning into what we faced in the last days of WWII in the Pacific--a fanatical population which is more eager to die than to live. Doesn't seem Israel has any choice but to handle it in a similiar manner as we did.
4 posted on 06/20/2002 12:49:00 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Jersey Kid
The press can call them "gunmen," "infiltrators," and "militants." But they just can't use the word "terrorist." I wonder why...
5 posted on 06/20/2002 12:50:40 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: LarryLied
>This is turning into what we faced in the last days of WWII in the Pacific--a fanatical population which is more eager to die than to live. Doesn't seem Israel has any choice but to handle it in a similiar manner as we did.

If only they had an end game in mind... as it is, the tit for tat policy will continue and the terrorists will be trained to commit more acts and be more successful.

6 posted on 06/20/2002 12:58:17 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Shermy
>It's due in part to Bush's middle east speech - ever delayed.

Pres. Bush needs to bring peace to the middle east so that he can start a war in the middle east.

7 posted on 06/20/2002 1:00:12 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Jersey Kid
"Islam is a religion of peace, that's what the president believes," Fleischer said.
8 posted on 06/20/2002 1:00:41 PM PDT by fogarty
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To: Jersey Kid
Some information on Itamar which is located in the heart of Samaria within view of what was the Samaritans sacred mountain Mt. Gerrizim. The writers comments on feeling the prescence of the Arabs without seeing them is similar to what I have read of settlers in Texas feeling the presence of the Comanches without seeing them until they struck.

Itamar Gem of the Hills

Life on Itamar By Leah Goldsmith

Yishuv Itamar is located in the Gav Hahar region, or literally, "the Hump of the Mountain". It is hill country, tremendously big, picturesque and mysterious, varied with long and wide valleys who resemble a mosaic coat of many colors ranging from pea to deep jade greens and chestnut browns in the winter and spring months. In the summertime the colors are dry, like the colors of Rebbeca's jug, in which she served Eliezer and the camels in Babylon.

There are springs and wells in the hills. The bounty stemming from the blessing given to Joesph…."The blessings of the father are potent above the blessings of my progenitors to the utmost bounds of the everlasting hills"(Vayechi 49). The tribunal portions of Ephraim and Menashe, the sons of Joseph run across these highlands. In every direction that one looks, the views are emanated with authentic biblical greatness and Jewish nobility. This is the chief feature of the landscape, of your life in it, and you are struck by the feeling of having lived here in the past.

When we made aliyah to Itamar 15 years ago by Divine Providence, a strong vibe pervaded the air- here I am, where I ought to be.

Gav Hahar is crowned by two noble peaks that rise 3,000 feet above the surrounding country, the mountains of the Blessing and the Curse- Har Gerizzim and Har Eval. They sometimes resemble twin Mount Sinais simmering in a purple Holy haze of splendor, the gray, jagged rocks breaking through on the Eval side, and majestic forests waving on the Gerizzim. You cannot imagine why G-d created these mountains for any reason in the world than just to be the gate, the very shoulders of the Land of Israel, with Shechem (literally-shoulder) resting in the valley.

In the winter, the winds blow incessantly here. They strike the sides of the mountains and hills and blow against the windowpanes of our homes. Sometimes the houses shudder from it. The clouds, which travel with the wind, release the blessings of the dew and the bounty, the blessings of Joseph. Huge droplets of rain pour down the little streets of the yishuv and form little temporary streams and pools. The sky can become very gray and dark with a range of gray clouds and you remember Noach sheltering his family in the ark. In fact, the most rain falls in these parts. That is the way it usually is, when the blessings are given. When Joseph was thrown again into the pit, the skies suddenly cleared and the grounds await It is a drought year. But, even so, the fields are full of scarlet poppies and blue pansies. The deer run free in these parts and skip from hill to dale.

Interestingly enough, not many Jews have come to resettle this Land. It is still a hidden place to most. In all Gav Hahar there are no more than 500 families. They are spread upon these ancient mountains, Harey Kedem, sparsely. There are 4 yishuvim, Itamar, Bracha - situated on the mountain of the Blessing, Yitzhar, and Elon Moreh. Each yishuv has a panorama unique to its position on the "hump of the Mountain".

Elon Moreh sloping off to the north and the famous portion of the daughters of Zlofchad, Yitzhar, to the west and a breathtaking view of the Great Sea, Bracha- upon the whole of Gav Hahar, and Itamar to the east, to the Jordan.

Before the recent intifada AlAksa, some curious Tel-Avivers would drive out in their 4x4's to catch the breath of this land that reaches beyond time and space. That has stopped now. We, the local settlers, are inquisitive about any vehicle that is not a bulletproof bus on these roads. At times, life on the yishuv seems like that of a hermit, with the stillness of the night sometimes so out of the ordinary. But, all of the time you can feel the overshadowed existence of the local natives, much like the Canaani, the Perizzi and the Chitti, running parallel with your own but on a completely different plane. You can't help but wonder, when will this end? The echoes of our ancestors, the echoes of the screams of Joseph call out from the nearby pit, and you can hear "Ode Yoseph Chay". History and the future whisper in the spring wind. They console. They inspire.

It is only a matter of time that Joseph returns. "And you shall dwell in the Land that I gave to your fathers, and you shall be my people, and I will be your G-d". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- to additional pages: for residents Introduction Contents Map Roots Today New Join Links newsletters photo collection -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- to contact us: E-mail itamar@shechem.org telephone 02 9975667 fax 02 9975333 snail mail Itamar, D.N. Lev haShomron 44834 klita- Varda 02 9972347 for English speakers- Moshe Goldsmith 02 9975053 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- created and maintained by: Tsel Harim

9 posted on 06/20/2002 1:04:44 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Dialup Llama
Yup. Israel can't afford a war of attrition and they know it. They have no choice but to inflict an overwhelming defeat. The only question I see is when they will do it.
10 posted on 06/20/2002 1:06:17 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Dialup Llama
I assume that you are referring to the Israelis having/ not having an end game.

They do have an end game. They want peace. It's that simple (See Rabin and Barak). The problem is that they are not being allowed to live in peace and they are being allowed to do all that is necessary to remove/ reduce the threat.

Israel moves into the West Bank to clean it up, the Europeans go nuts, Ted Turner has a cow, Oliver Stone shoots his mouth off, Sherie Blair talks about the poor downtrodden ancient Palestinians, the French remain French and Pres. Bush gets cold feet and tells Sharon that it's time to stop.

HOw long have we been in Afghanistan? How far is Afghanistan from the US? Arafat and his goons are right next door! Israel, including the West Bank, is 50 miles wide!

I wonder how Pres. Bush would react to us living in mortal danger every single day. Where we live in fear of our kids going to school, every single day.

How can we be this hypocritical, that we would stand in the way of an Israel that desperately needs to protect its populace.

I don't understand what we are doing? Where is the justice in our position?

11 posted on 06/20/2002 1:27:29 PM PDT by sofaman
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To: LarryLied
Yup. Israel can't afford a war of attrition and they know it. They have no choice but to inflict an overwhelming defeat. The only question I see is when they will do it.

Is this the same LarryLied?

This is exactly what I have said on previous posts. Israel (or any nation for that matter) cannot stand back and watch their citizenry be killed.

BTW, I take no pleasure in the consequences that will occur on the Palestinian side. But I hope some sensible Palestinian leadership will arise from the ashes.
12 posted on 06/20/2002 1:28:51 PM PDT by AsYouAre
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To: 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr; babylonian; Prodigal Daughter
Oh where oh where is that moderate peace-loving leader of the Palis?

Ask the Oracle...

http://www.beastcoins.com/Architecture/Delphi/Delphi-Greece.htm

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/d/delphi.html

13 posted on 06/20/2002 1:57:46 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: AsYouAre
Is this the same LarryLied?

LOL...yes. I've always said Israel should do whatever it takes and do it now. My comments often get lost by a flurry of replies to me by a few people telling everyone what they think I think. Or what they would like people to think I think. My only gripe is with socialists. And what I say about them is said even more pointedly by some Jews in Israel itself.

14 posted on 06/20/2002 2:05:13 PM PDT by LarryLied
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