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Warnings Before 1995 Oklahoma Bombing
AP Online via COMTEX ^ | June 20, 2002 | JOHN SOLOMON

Posted on 06/20/2002 12:04:19 AM PDT by grimalkin

WASHINGTON, Jun 20, 2002 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- Just weeks before Timothy McVeigh bombed the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995, U.S. intelligence and law enforcement received several warnings that Islamic terrorists were seeking to strike on American soil and that a likely target was government buildings, documents show.

The information, though it was never linked to McVeigh, was stark enough that the Clinton administration urged stepped up security patrols and screening at federal buildings nationwide, including those in Oklahoma.

The government, however, didn't fortify buildings with cement barriers like those hurriedly installed after McVeigh detonated his explosive-laden truck at the curb of the Murrah building on April 19, 1995, officials said.

Islamic extremists are determined to "strike inside the U.S. against objects symbolizing the American government in the near future," said one warning obtained by The Associated Press.

The intelligence that prompted the warnings was gathered across the globe from Iran and Syria to the Philippines and became more specific as to the potential type attack (suicide bombing), target (government building) and likely date (after the third week in March 1995), the documents show.

The U.S. Marshal's Service issued an alert on March 15, 1995, to federal courthouses it protects, including the one in Oklahoma City across the street from where McVeigh's truck bomb killed 168 people, the documents show.

"Iranian extremists want it made clear that steps are being taken to strike at the Great Satan," a term used frequently in the Mideast to describe the United States, the marshal's memo said. It said a fatwa - a religious order - had been issued to attack marshals or their buildings.

"There is sufficient threat potential to request that a heightened level of security awareness and caution be implemented," the memo added.

Separately, the General Services Administration received a warning from the FBI and asked hundreds of federal buildings it operates to increase security details, including the Murrah building, officials said.

"We were told there was a fatwa threatening to target federal buildings," GSA spokeswoman Viki Reath said this week. "We increased our patrols to 12-hour shifts."

More than two dozen current and former intelligence and law enforcement officials interviewed by AP said the period of spring 1995 was a time of heightened "chatter" among terrorists seeking to strike the United States.

But the officials cautioned the FBI and CIA exhaustively investigated whether McVeigh could have been aided by Mideast terrorist and found no credible evidence linking him to any Islamic extremists, including those who prompted the 1995 warnings.

The information about 1995 emerges as a joint House-Senate panel examining the intelligence and law enforcement failures that preceded Sept. 11 has expanded its mission to look back at the late 1980s and 1990s.

John Gannon, former deputy CIA director for intelligence under President Clinton, said spring 1995 was one of a handful of periods in the 1990s when intelligence on terror threats peaked as the government increasingly turned its attention to Osama bin Laden and his emerging terrorist network.

Gannon said the 1995 warnings were plentiful enough that he initially assumed Islamic extremists had struck when the bomb exploded in Oklahoma City. Law enforcement too issued initial bulletins looking for Arab suspects and borrowed Arabic translators from the military.

"When I first heard about the Oklahoma bombing, the first reaction I had was I wonder if this were a foreign group that had done this or the Islamic extremists that had come up on our screen," Gannon said.

He said it was in 1998, after bin Laden issued a fatwa urging specific attacks on America and two U.S. embassies in Africa were bombed, that U.S. anti-terrorism efforts escalated markedly.

"If there was a watershed year, it was 1998. That significantly elevated our concern and resulted in a concerted effort, and a very strong program to go get Osama bin Laden," he said.

The 1995 intelligence was specific enough that "if that was today, you'd have (Bush Homeland Security Director) Tom Ridge going out and saying we have this threat," said former Rep. Bill McCollum, R-Fla., who in 1995 was a member of the House Intelligence Committee.

McCollum formed a congressional task force in the late 1980s that began warning of the growing threat of terrorism, and which issued some of the 1995 alerts.

"For a good number of years, there was a failure to acknowledge the severity of the threat," he said. "There really had been this disbelief or unwillingness to scare people."

Former Clinton White House press secretary Joe Lockhart said "protecting America against terrorists was a high priority" during the 1990s. "Threat information regularly came in and steps were taken to deal with it," he said.

"In general, the record is very clear that the Clinton administration increased counterterrorism funding and focus more than any other prior administration based on the emerging threats," Lockhart added.

Some of the 1995 warnings were pointed.

"Iranian sources confirmed Tehran's desire and determination to strike inside the U.S. against objects symbolizing the American government in the near future," said a Feb. 27, 1995, terror warning by the House Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare.

The warnings became increasingly specific as to the possible location, type of attack and likely dates.

"These strikes are most likely to occur either in the immediate future or in the new Iranian year - starting 21 March 1995," the congressional task force predicted.

U.S. intelligence monitored a series of meetings and conferences between senior officials of Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and other terror organizations in mid-February 1995 in which the subject of killing Americans on U.S. soil came up, officials said.

During these conferences, known terrorists made specific mention of Congress and the White House as "institutions that are great enemies of the Islamist movement," according to a congressional warning.

"This is a deviation from past discussions beyond referring to the U.S. as a single entity to pointing to specific branches of government as their true enemies," it added.

Around the same time, the FBI received intelligence from the Philippines that two men later convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing had been arrested as they were plotting to blow up U.S. airliners. The men planned to hijack one airliner and crash it into the CIA, Pentagon or White House, documents show.

The marshal's warning explained that Islamic extremists had issued a fatwa to kill marshals personnel or strike their buildings because of an episode at the end of the World Trade Center bombing trial in which deputy marshals accidentally stepped on a copy of the Koran during a scuffle.

"Allegedly, the fatwa is being disseminated to persons in the United States who have the capability to carry it out," the memo said.

The terrorists could be suicide bombers who may "target as many victims as possible and draw as much media coverage as possible," it added. "Once the press is on the scene the new plans call for blowing up everyone."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cia; fbi; fredthompson; okcbombing; oklahomabombing; terrorism
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To: Dog; hchutch; Shermy; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; seamole; blackie
It all boils down as usual to the Clintoon and his criminal in charge of No Justice, Jake Reno.

So what did the Clintoon, the Hildebeast and Jake Reno know before the OKC bombing? Why didn't they stop it.

Why didn't the NY Slimes, DC Compost, LA Slimes investigate what these Rats in Power knew before the OKC bombing and mass murder of so many innocents?

Will we find the traces/trails of Opecker Petro $'s on their hands to stall or hide justice?

41 posted on 06/20/2002 7:47:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: browardchad
If this is accurate, it means that U.S. intelligence had far better and detailed info on Islamic threats in the mid-90's than it did in 2001

In the early to mid '90s Steve Emerson warned that Oklahoma City was a hotbed of radical islamic activity. In his book he recounts a story of when he was in Oklahoma City in '92 and walked into the convention center and observed a gathering of the Muslim Arab Youth Association. There were all types of books (even coloring books) preaching Jihad and calling for the extermination of Jews and Christians, and books on how to kill infidels

42 posted on 06/20/2002 7:50:59 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: grimalkin
Come back please.....Carol Howe!
43 posted on 06/20/2002 8:03:03 AM PDT by ChasingFletch
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44 posted on 06/20/2002 8:13:28 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: hchutch

45 posted on 06/20/2002 8:14:05 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
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46 posted on 06/20/2002 8:25:15 AM PDT by cyncooper
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To: hchutch
There is a school of thought in the Middle East that sees the enemy of one's enemy as a friend (even if only on a temporary basis).

I would not put it past Iran and company to sponsor all manner of nogoodniks here in America--and for those nogoodniks to accept foreign money.

47 posted on 06/20/2002 8:37:20 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: wtc911
She's only baiting us

And she is, if nothing else, a master baiter.

48 posted on 06/20/2002 8:38:46 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: knighthawk
Thank you very much for the ping.
49 posted on 06/20/2002 8:49:05 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: grimalkin
"What did President Clinton know and when did he know it?"

"My constituents are now asking these questions!"

50 posted on 06/20/2002 8:55:27 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Grampa Dave
We will probably never be allowed to actually see the evidence of what the Clinton administration knew and when they knew it as releasing that info would lead to a break down in civil order.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

51 posted on 06/20/2002 9:30:07 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: harpseal
You are right on target here: We will probably never be allowed to actually see the evidence of what the Clinton administration knew and when they knew it as releasing that info would lead to a break down in civil order.

Just like if we really new what was in the info handed to the Senate in the Impeachment fiasco, pitchforks, tar and feathers would be the least of the worries of those senators who vote not to punish the Clintoon!

I don't know if I would want to see all of it!

52 posted on 06/20/2002 9:41:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: *OKCbombing
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53 posted on 06/20/2002 10:00:08 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: knighthawk; archy; lawdog; glorygirl; MizSterious; Ronneil; thinden; aristeides; B4Ranch; ...
I have written extensively about many of the items in Solomans article on FR since June 2000 plus a whole lot more about prior warning, some of which I will repeat in this reply. Soloman was fed info for his story by Mike McNulty who did the documentaries on Waco and who I personally told about the forewarnings going back to 1995. McNulty has also been in contact with Jayna Davis to get additional details which I have provided Davis regularly since 1995.

I believe Soloman's story is vastly incomplete, does not adequately reflect the extent of detailed forewarning/foreknpowledge by the FBI and USG. Soloman's story too easily gives the Feds an "out" for their corruption and coverup of their mishandling of the OKC bombing (which they do not deserve). I am concerned as to why Soloman's story was so incomplete in blaming the USG for knowing more than what SOloman knew to reveal in his story but did not reveal.

I found an article in the Newark Star Ledger in early May 1995 whcih quoted from the US Marshals memo put out by the head of the MArshalls, Eduardo GOnzales. I gave a copy to ABC news who put it on the national news in May 1995. Defense attorney Stephen Jones also publicly brought up the memo and in a March 1996 pretrial hearing with Judge MAtsch and US prosecutor Beth Wilkinson. Thus in May 1995 in OKlahoma and across the nation it was made known that a warning had been issued for a possible ME assisted attack on Fed buildings including the OKC Murrah building in the US. I went to the Senate Judiciary and Senate intelligence committees with this info and they did nothing even though the Pentagon terrorism advisor went with me.

WIlkinson admitted in the pretrial hearing that the FBI deliberately had not done an FBI 302 report on the US MArshalls warning. However, she represented to the court ( I have the court records) that the ENTIRE Federal family had been warned because of the memo. This included the BATF, CIA FBI, Federal judges and US MArshals.

THe US Marshals warning was used to specifically warn US Judge Wayne Ally in OKC in late March 1995. Ally told his hometown newspaper, the Oregonian, in May 1995 that Ally had used the warning to tell his children to take his grand children out of the Murrah buliding day care center where 16 children lost their lives on April 19, 1995. Ally stayed home to work at home after APril 4, 1995 and he was not on vacation either. When these facts became known, Ally was taken off the Nichols and McVeigh trials , the venue was changed to Denver and Ally was replaced by Matsch.

The FBI, not just the BATF, had prior warning and told their agents to stay out of the Murrah building on April 19, 1995. My wife was told this by prominent FBI agents wives, Dee Vogel and Christie Hersley at 9:30 am on APril 19, 1995 just 28 minutes after the Murrah building was bombed. The FBI wives also said that the FBI knew the bombing was coming as a result of "the BATF botching WACO".

The FBI did not have offices in the Murrah building but the FBI had 3-4 agents in the Murrah building everyday at 9am sharp (2 minutes before the Murrah bombing) and they often dropped children off at the day care center . The FBI went to court proceedings across the street at the Fed courthouse and met with agents of the DEA, BATF, secret Service and Defsne investigative services all housed in the Murrah building. I found numerous witnesses wo worked at the Murrah building who confirmed the FBI presence in the MUrrah building everuy day at 9 am. No FBI agents were in the Murrah building on APril 19, 1995, The FBI wives expressed relief that their husbands and other FBI agents had been told not to go to the Murrah building that day.

My wife has been threatened more than once with loss of employment for telling her story publicly by one of the FBI agents wives and by an FBI agent since 1995. The FBI sent FBI agent James Carlisle to our home in Jan 1996 to threaten me and my wife over this and other evidence we had learned of USG foreknowledge or forewarning. I personally spoke with OK Senator James Inhofe and the Seante Intell legal counsel Joan Grimson about the FBI threats to me and my wife. The Pentagon terror advisor Jesse Clear also spoke to the same offices (Inhofe and Grimson)on my wife's behalf. Nothing was done adequate to protect me or my wife or rectify the situation with the FBI.

One reason may be is that Seantors Inhofe's chief of staff, Herb Johnson wrote a letter in 1998 sating that Johnson had been told by the head of the FBI command center in OKC the week after the OKC bombing that the DOJ did not want the public to learn of a middle eastern connection to the OKC bombing. I discussed Johnson's leter with Inhofe who has kept this information from the American people for over seven years (Inhofe was told by Johnson about it in 1995). I wrote an article condeming Inhofe about this for FR on 8/11/2000 and I also blamed him for the loss of life for any future attacks (which happened on 9/11/2001). Inhofe sits on the Senate Intelligence COmmittee. The artcle: "While America Burns, Senator Inhofe Fiddles"

The same FBI agent Carlisle threatened sheriff David Kochendorfer in 1998 over the Sheriff having a news conference stating that on the evening of APril 19, 1995 COngressman Ernest Istook of Oklahoma told him and another sheriff Don HAmmonds that the USG had detailed prior warning on APril 9, 1995 of a ME assisted attack by local ME extremeists in OKC (Hamas & Iraqis&Iranians)). Carlisle falsified his 302 interview report with Kochendorfer just before Kochendoerfer was to testify before the OKC county grand jury investigating the OKC bombing. My wife was also threatened again in 1998 just before Hersley testified before the COunty grand jury.

A federal informant Cary Gagan was given immunity by US attorneys in Denver in early 1995 for information he provided of a terror attack on a Federal building in the Midwest that included the Murrah building and buildings in Denver and Omaha. Gagan had infiltrated the group ( included drug traffickers, ME terrorists and domestic dissidents)who was planning the bombing, Gagan made a delivery of explosives and a mixer to Dwight Kansas a week or so before the OKC bombing he says for the group. Gagan wrote the US attorneys again on APril 3, 1995 specifically warning them of the attack again. Gagan went public with his information which was shown on local and national TV but was rewarded with having his immunity revoked. Gagan has sued in Federal court over the Fiasco. The court records of this entire story are available and I have seen them. William Jasper of the NEw AMerican travelled Gagan's route with Gagan and believes Gagn was reporting on the group who helped do the OKC boombing. Jasper wrote extensively about Gagan in the NEw AMerican in 1998.

Jasper once told me he was specifically threatened by the CIA for his coverage of the OKC bombing and the USG forekowledge or forewarning.

THe FBI and USG excuse was that they did not know the exact day or hour of the bombing and that they got numerous threats whiuch they could not distinguish between. I believe they are being deceitful because what counts is whether or not the FBI and USG took these threats seriously enough to warn themselves, which they did but did not warn others who were private citizens who went to the social security offices and HUD and day care center and who were killed.

54 posted on 06/20/2002 10:03:04 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: swampfx
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55 posted on 06/20/2002 10:05:32 AM PDT by honway
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To: Plummz; Travis McGee; Donald Stone
Please see reply #54. Thanks.
56 posted on 06/20/2002 10:08:58 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
Your reply is better than the article posted at the top of this thread. Thanks for writing it again.
57 posted on 06/20/2002 10:11:55 AM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Grampa Dave
I for one do wish to see it all perhaps that breakdown in civil order would lead to a Constitutional restoration.

"Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free."

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

58 posted on 06/20/2002 10:16:55 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: grimalkin
Time for mysterious explosions to begin taking down buildings in Damascas, Bagdad, Tehran, Islamibad, Triploli, Morroco, Cairo, Riad, Mecha, Medina.......the X gernaration CIA
59 posted on 06/20/2002 10:34:00 AM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: OKCSubmariner
The FBI, not just the BATF, had prior warning and told their agents to stay out of the Murrah building on April 19, 1995.

Despite claims to the contrary, there is substantial evidence there were no ATF Agents in the Murrah Building at the time of the blast. There were ATF admin personnel, but no Agents. This gives you an idea of the character of the Agents that permitted their own staff to be sacrificed.

Luke Franey went so far as to enter the building after the blast and place a piece of poster board out a window with the words, "ATF Trapped" to cover the fact no Agents were inside the building at the time of the blast. Heros like Officer Terry Yeakey were pulling people from the rubble while Franey was covering for his complicity.

60 posted on 06/20/2002 10:36:13 AM PDT by honway
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