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Who Makes The Best Cars?
Forbes ^ | Jerry Flint

Posted on 06/19/2002 6:31:07 PM PDT by wallcrawlr

Every week I get letters or e-mails from readers. Many tell me that they will never buy another Detroit car because of quality problems and the treatment they receive when they try to get the problems solved. Perhaps it has something to do with the readership of my column, but I get the most complaints from owners of cars from DaimlerChrysler (nyse: DCX - news - people ) and General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ), particularly the Cadillac division of GM.

On paper, the domestic brands of GM, Ford Motor (nyse: F - news - people ) and Chrysler still hold about 47% of all sales of passenger cars in the U.S. (this figure excludes pickups, sport utilities and minivans). But after you pull out the rental cars, the business-fleet cars, and the cars sold at a big discount to employees of the auto companies and suppliers, I would guess that Detroit's share is only 40%. This means that 60% of the real retail sales of passenger cars went to foreign nameplates. Today, of course, many of those foreign-branded cars are built in the U.S.

I think quality has lots to do with American's preference for passenger cars other than those from Detroit. Of course there are other factors, such as styling, design, interiors, performance, handling and resale value. But I am sure all those angry folks also count. That's why stories on studies of quality are important.

Nevertheless, you get some surprises.

Would you believe that most Japanese car makes have below-average quality? Or that some of the vehicles with the worst quality show the best sales gains? Or that Ford Motor's quality is improving faster that that of General Motors, although GM gets all the credit in the press for a great leap forward?

I'm looking at the new Initial Quality Study by J.D. Power and Associates, the quality gurus. The Power results come from questionnaires sent to 65,000 buyers or lessees of 2002 models; the survey tabulates problems (defects) in the first 90 days of ownership.

Passenger Cars With Highest J.D. Power Rankings
Segment J.D. Power #1
Compact Car Toyota Corolla and Toyota Prius (tie)
Entry Midsize Car Chevrolet Malibu
Premium Midsize Car Buick Century
Full-Size Car Buick LeSabre
Entry Luxury Car Ford Thunderbird
Mid Luxury Car Lexus GS 300/GS 430
Premium Luxury Car Lexus LS 430
Sports Car Mazda Miata
Premium Sports Car Chevrolet Corvette

As you might guess, Toyota Motor (nyse: TM - news - people ) and Honda Motor (nyse: HMC - news - people ) come in No. 1 and No. 2 in the rankings by manufacturer. These two companies are the "gold standard." Toyota has a score of 107 defects per 100 vehicles in the first 90 days of ownership. Honda has 113 defects. The industry average is 133.

Every company shows improvement over last year except for the following three: Nissan Motor (nasdaq: NSANY - news - people ), which has many new products; Isuzu; and Daewoo, which is bankrupt in Korea and was just bought by a GM-led group.

My biggest surprises:

Except for Honda and Toyota, all the other Japanese companies were below the average of 133 defects in initial quality. Mitsubishi shows 147 defects; Nissan, 152; Subaru, 157; Isuzu, 195; and Suzuki, a horrendous 210, which places it second from last.

GM, Ford and Chrysler topped all the Japanese companies except for Toyota and Honda.

Mercedes-Benz fell in the rankings. Among the rankings by nameplate, Lexus was first with 88 defects per 100 vehicles; Acura and Infiniti next, with 107 each. Mercedes was way down at 14th, with 128 defects. Cadillac had 116 defects; Buick, 119; and Lincoln, 121.

Quality and sales don't necessarily relate. The worst for quality was Korean Kia with 212 defects. Kia sales are up 23% this year. Hyundai of Korea was sixth from the bottom, with 156 defects; its sales are up 16% from a year ago. But Toyota and Honda's combined sales are about even with last year.

J.D. Power says that the long-term direction is most important here, and Hyundai has had the biggest improvement of any company over five years. I'm not sure why that affects a buyer, though. Who wants to hear: "The quality of our cars isn't very good but it's lots better than it was five years ago"?

GM held a big news conference to herald its showing and got great stories in the newspapers. Yet GM as a company ranked No. 5--behind Toyota, Honda, BMW and Porsche, and its improvement over the prior year was actually smaller than Ford Motor's improvement.

J.D. Power people say that GM deserves much credit because its quality gains have been consistent since 1998, and much better than Ford's over that period.

One more point: GM trucks are hot sellers this year, yet among the truck segments (meaning the fewest defects rating by truck model), GM didn't win one first place. Except for one category won by Ford, Toyota took first place in the truck segments.

Light Trucks With Highest J.D. Power Rankings
Segment J.D. Power #1 Bestseller
Compact Pickup Toyota Tacoma Ford Ranger
Full-Size Pickup Toyota Tundra Ford F- Series
Entry SUV Toyota RAV4 Honda CR-V
Midsize SUV Toyota Highlander Ford Explorer
Full-Size SUV Ford Expedition Chevy Tahoe
Luxury SUV Lexus LX 470 Cadillac Escalade
Compact Van Toyota Sienna Dodge Caravan

Note that Ford's Thunderbird came in first in quality among entry-level luxury cars. Just about every car magazine testing the T-Bird complained about quality, such as a shaking cowl. Maybe Ford corrected the problem on the early models, or maybe the owners were so happy waving to admiring pedestrians that they didn't pay attention to shakes and rattles. That happens.

I also didn't expect the strong showing of the Chevy Malibu. Frankly, I didn't think anyone bought a Malibu; I thought it was all fleet business.

Conclusions:

Low prices and nice-looking vehicles can be more important than a quality rating.

The initial quality of most cars is pretty close and, on average, improving. The average is 133 defects per 100 vehicles; five years ago it was 176 defects.

While a top quality ranking doesn't necessarily turn a vehicle into a bestseller, it is worth noting that Toyota's high rankings and its expanding line of trucks virtually guarantee that it will be an even bigger force in the truck market in years to come.

Overall, this year's scores were a 10% improvement over last year, and from the figures it would seem that the American cars really match most of the foreign cars in this quality test. But I still get those letters. There is a lot of bad feeling out there, and it's going to take a while before it goes away, a long while.


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1 posted on 06/19/2002 6:31:07 PM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr
My wife has driven Ford Expeditions for four years and loves them; big, roomy (six teenagers) and no frozen north snow slows it down.

I've driven Jeep Grand Cherokee's since 96, very good all around SUV, took me all over field roads in the worst weather.

Recently bought a BMW X-5, six cylinder. What a dream to drive and a real screamer (115 on hwy with room to spare). Don't know about heavy winter snows, but should be good. Two leftover SUV's for the kids, quick, call O'Reilly and turn me in for greedy fuel consumption.

2 posted on 06/19/2002 6:43:52 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: wallcrawlr
I had bad luck with a Honda.

My current car is a 97 Nissan Maxima. OUTSTANDING in reliability. I have not had a single problem, except for a minor leak in a master cylinder which I opted to replace. The mechanic said I could have gone for a long time with the tiny leak but I decided to have it replaced.

Amazing...my next car will be a Nissan.

--Boris

3 posted on 06/19/2002 6:50:33 PM PDT by boris
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To: BOBTHENAILER
"Two leftover SUV's for the kids"

..........will you adopt me? My Saturn has over 107,000 miles on it. Please????? Dad?
4 posted on 06/19/2002 6:50:36 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: wallcrawlr
Toyotas are by far the best vehicles made. Just talk to mechanic who works on all cars and they will tell....if they are honest. They are definitely the Gold Standard and it really shows when they are around 200k miles and still running like they have only 40k or less miles.

Drive a 200k Camry or Corolla and any other vehicle of the same mileage and you can tell.

5 posted on 06/19/2002 6:51:17 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: BOBTHENAILER
My wife got a Brand New Ford Exployer while her Toyota Avalon was in the shop.

I thought I was in areobics class driving the thing, and that was on a Sraight Road!

Seriously, in spite of Toyota's caving in to ShakeDown Jesse (anyone got the update on that news item?) I wouldn't give the money to the Ford 'The Muslims are our Friends' Foundation!

I drive a Lexus BTW...

6 posted on 06/19/2002 6:52:11 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: Brad's Gramma
will you adopt me? My Saturn has over 107,000 miles on it. Please?????

One has 147,000 and the other 106,000. If I adopted you I would also get the repair bills?

7 posted on 06/19/2002 6:54:57 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Well for Pete's sake, Dad....that's not gonna do me any good! Let's strike a deal. I'll do the dishes for 2 years, every meal, for a new car. Dad? Please? Pretty please????????
8 posted on 06/19/2002 6:57:07 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
I thought I was in areobics class driving the thing, and that was on a Sraight Road!

I drove one prior to BMW and didn't like it either. Almost got another Jeep but then drove the BMW........miles apart. I was gonna try a Lexus and Acura but impulse buying sucked me up.

9 posted on 06/19/2002 7:00:01 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The competition from Japan and Germany has made the USA car mfg's make better vehicles. You can check out Consumer Reports, Consumer Digest, Motor Trend, Car and Driver and Road and Track. They all recommend some American made vehicles. And they all have websites so you can do your research online. Some of the foreign mfg's vehicles are made in USA like the BMW Z3 and the Mercedes SUV. If you buy your vehicles at auction you save a lot. Take a mechanic along with you so you can check out the vehicle before you buy. Let someone else eat the depreciation and what you save you can use to really personalize the vehicle.
10 posted on 06/19/2002 7:00:07 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: JSteff
When I wanted to buy a small pickup to take care of household chores I asked all the mechanics at the maintenance shop what to get. Every single one of them said get a Toyota with the 22R engine. I bought a 94 with 74,000 miles on it and the mechanics said if I kept up with maintenance I'd probably get 200,000 trouble free miles out of it.
11 posted on 06/19/2002 7:00:15 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: Brad's Gramma
I'll do the dishes for 2 years, every meal, for a new car. Dad? Please? Pretty please????????

Sorry, kids already have that duty and more. Decent offer though. LOL

12 posted on 06/19/2002 7:03:17 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: wallcrawlr
Im Really Happy with VW Bump!
13 posted on 06/19/2002 7:03:55 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: kellynla
Thanks for the input, I'm saving for future use.
14 posted on 06/19/2002 7:04:55 PM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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To: JSteff
My daughter is driving a 1992 Toyota Camry. It's got 180,000 miles on it. It drives like a dream and runs like a top. I'm getting ready to do the timing chain and some new brake pads. The car is excellent.
My personal car is a Honda Civic. (I drive 3 miles to work and 3 miles home @ 27 mpg.) This car has been top-quality-- no problems from the manufacturer, no repairs on it over the 4 years I've had it, and nothing in the way of trim, knobs, etc., has fallen off of it. The engine has plenty of power.
Flame me, but when they make an American car with the quality of my Toyota or my Honda, I will gladly buy American again.
15 posted on 06/19/2002 7:05:05 PM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Tailback
I have two 4x4 Toyotas (84 & 94). Rugged, durrable, go anywhere...beat you to death though. I also have an 02 Chev Silverado. My last Silverado had 185,000 pretty trouble free miles when I traded it in.
16 posted on 06/19/2002 7:07:45 PM PDT by umgud
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To: wallcrawlr
What a silly excercise, the J.D. Power rating of initial quality {first 90 days}is absolutly meaningless. Any serious analysis of overall auto reliability could never include the Corvette. A useful study would be complaints to auto makers about each model, not for the first 90 days , but over the typical lease term, or adv term of ownership. A more simple gauge would be resale value past the first 3 years, for example Saturn has had a very good inital quality record, but resale value drops off after 3 years, why? because the Saturn is simply not as good a car as is the Toyotas, and Hondas. Of couse this gauge is useless with cars like the Corvette, since reliability is not a factor with customers of such exotic cars, here the incidence of repair records, and lemon law suits is a better gauge.
17 posted on 06/19/2002 7:07:52 PM PDT by TJFLSTRAT
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Today, of course, many of those foreign-branded cars are built in the U.S.............

Except for Honda and Toyota, all the other Japanese companies were below the average of 133 defects in initial quality. Mitsubishi shows 147 defects; Nissan, 152; Subaru, 157; Isuzu, 195; and Suzuki, a horrendous 210, which places it second from last.

This is a surprising slip in quality. I wonder if there is a correlation between 'built in the U.S.' and the poor numbers?

18 posted on 06/19/2002 7:07:59 PM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Recently bought a BMW X-5, six cylinder. What a dream to drive...

I have the BMW X-5 3.0, also. My wife has the BMW 5 series sedan. Both 2001's. Great cars, to say the least.

19 posted on 06/19/2002 7:09:25 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: wallcrawlr
I like used cars, so whatever the reliabilities are of the newer models, makes no difference to me.

Chevys are good, as long as you stay away from automatic transmissions. Hondas are good, as long as you never need to buy spare parts. Honda parts are rediculous. Toyotas are good, but you can expect to pay alot for one even if it has high mileage. Aslo, toyotas tend to have a really really light weight construction...open and close the doors of a toyota corolla and you will see what I mean...they are light as air. The korean brands have the lowest quality and get the worst gas mileage as compared to engine horsepower, but if you can get one really cheap, it's a good buy.

Basically, all cars nowdays are pretty reliable. THE only ones I would reccomend that you should never ever buy are high mileage european cars, or even low mileage european cars that are old. It is hard to get parts or even a mechanic for them and when you do, you will pay more than the thing is worth. They aren't worth repairing and you can't sell one that needs a repair. Stay away from them.

For a do it yourselfer backyard mechanic, the ideal car is an older 2WD minitruck with a manual transmission.
20 posted on 06/19/2002 7:12:52 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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