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Liberty Is Overrated--Safety Should Be Our First Concern*
Ever Vigilant ^
| 06-19-2002
| Lee R. Shelton IV
Posted on 06/19/2002 11:33:59 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: Jefferson Adams
By the way, I agree with you that rates are still high. If they would lower them we would get more people working harder because they would get to keep more of their own money.
Taxes are like the drug pot. They deaden your ambition.
To: dead
Knock yourself out!
To: sheltonmac
I think arming all U.S. citizens and offering trained observer classes would increase liberty and securtiy.
I'll have to see if this guy has an email address so I can let him know my simple solution that I hope will become known as the Nukum Plan.
To: A CA Guy
Would you do everybody from California a favor and just shut the hell up!
To: dead
Judging from your posts, that California power crisis is much worse than I thought.Precious!!!
To: 68 grunt
LOL! People like you are the reason I try not to insult Californians too much.
Believe me, I can sympathize. I live in NJ, and recently moved out of NY.
I don't know why we all just don't move to Idaho where we belong.
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06/19/2002 5:45:40 PM PDT
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dead
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To: sheltonmac
Whadda great post, and I'm so happy I didn't fall for it!!! Thanks, I really enjoyed it! The responses were so enlightening.
To: sheltonmac
Sigh... no matter how obvious you try to make it, satire is always taken deadly serious by far too many people. You have my sympathies.
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To: A CA Guy
I haven't been subject to withholding tax for most of my life either. The point everyone is trying to make to you is that when the federal government is eating over 40% of the GNP and with at least two other levels of government adding taxes to the mix, most of us spend around half of our income on taxes.
If you can't see it, at least don't call those who can "dolts". I'll take your comments for what they're worth, realizing that what passes for a conservative in California would usually be a flaming liberal where I live.
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06/19/2002 6:10:47 PM PDT
by
Twodees
To: don-o
Discouraging because people tend to knee jerk rather than to absorb and reflect. That may be a characteristic of the cyber world; especially those who have not had much conventional education or read books. I'm not sure about education or reading books, but you're right. Blind gullibility is a characteristic of the cyber-world. Rather discouraging to see people who's opinion you want to respect blurt out opinions and insults in a way that makes their own words turn them into bufoons.
To: Twodees
Someone suggested I was a dolt for not seeing the 50% and I said the dolt would be the one paying near 50%.
There are a lot of fees for service and so-called hidden taxes in products out there for sure.
I 100% agree that rates are high. But my statement was that there is no reason to pay the highest rates, that you can use current laws to pay less.
I of course agree that rates are very high.
Earlier in #141 I think I expressed that also.
When you lower rates you cause people to want to work harder because the rewards for themselves are higher.
Reagan's lower rates doubled the revenue to the treasury.
The death tax will probably surpass the income tax in the next twenty years as massive amounts of wealth changes hands after death by the way.
To: sheltonmac
Ann Coulter in a recent interview a day or so ago also addressed this subject directly concerning the Libertarians.
GOPUSA: Libertarian purists seem to oppose even basic immigration reforms. And many don't want to make big expenditures on the ''war on terrorism''. Are they fully cognizant of the dangers presented by terrorism?
AC: No. ''Purist'' Libertarians take spiteful Anti-American positions in the hopes that someone someday will invite them to a pot party. The only way to get the holier-than-thou Libertarians behind the war on terrorism is to remind them that Muslims oppose the legalization of marijuana.
To: sheltonmac
disgusting.
To: sheltonmac
The problem with this advice is that it is well over two centuries old, and no one back then could have imagined the dangers we face today. We are at war and should be expected to sacrifice some liberty for safety. The 1st amendment is 200 years old...the 2nd amendment was back when people had to hunt...damn that constitution...
What a stupid assed reason by a stupid assed 'journalist'.
. The few individuals who are not seem to be those who are clinging too tightly to their precious Constitution.
It's the law. Tough s**t. If you don't like it, move to a better country for freedom grabbers like you.
They refuse to give up even the smallest right, when doing so might mean the difference between victory and defeat
Can someone tell me what in the hell can secret searches do in this 'war'(CONGRESS declares war) to help victory????
These people, whether they realize it or not, are the terrorists' strongest allies in this war.
BS. If we lose freedoms, the terrorists win.
Any attempt to detract from the plans of our president and his administration is tantamount to treason.
Treason, huh. It's called the FIRST AMENDMENT!!!!
If they can't learn the concept of "go along to get along," they need to be silenced. This war needs to be won-no matter what the cost. Silenced huh. Hey tough guy, silence me!!!
*NOTE: This is a satirical piece designed to expose the twisted logic of the "win at all costs" crowd, and the views expressed herein should not be confused with the actual beliefs of the author.
Bwhahahah. I found that when I clicked on the link. I was about ready to punch out my computer reading this stuff.
To: stillbornagain
So you are saying you would rather there had been 3000 amendments to the Constitution rather than the Legislature and Bench interpreting the same law different for each generation.
That is a valid point. But the Government would remain the same predatory animal if you went with your purists view, for there would be all the amendments needed to do what is done by the Government today.
I think the form would be different, but the outcome would remain the same.
To: Kerberos
think I'll stick with Franklin. Would you stick with Frankin on this?
There never was a good war or a bad peace
Benjamin Franklin 1706-1790
To: xvb
What is it about Americans being protected from sick Islamist killers bothers you anti-government whiners so much? OK. How in the blue hell can giving up our freedoms protect us from these Islamic Fundamentalist jerks. Explain that one to me.
I'll protect myself and my family, thank you.
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