Troops for border sought

Washington Times ^ | 6/19/02 | Dave Boyer

[kattracks]

Conservative lawmakers called on President Bush to deploy thousands of troops along U.S. borders, saying the homeland security plan that the White House delivered yesterday to Congress would take years to crack down on illegal immigration.

"Our nation's border security is our homeland's Achilles' heel," said Rep. Jim Ramstad, Minnesota Republican. "This situation must be corrected immediately if we're serious about preventing terrorism."

[Texasforever]

I hope the nation is ready for martial law because that is the ONLY way the military is authorized to assume civil police powers in this country.

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Did Bush impose martial law when he deployed the National Guard on the borders?

[Texasforever]

Did Bush impose martial law when he deployed the National Guard on the borders?

He violated the constitution.

[PRND21]

"I want an explanation of these 'cultural and historical' reasons why we can't protect our nation's borders," said Rep. Tom Tancredo

The logical and reality based reasons were not sufficient apparently.
How many troops?
Were do we get the manpower?
Who pays?
What restrictions will Americans be forced to adhere to?

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Are you calling for his impeachment?

[Texasforever]

Are you calling for his impeachment?

No, are you in favor of martial law?

[america-rules]

"I hope the nation is ready for martial law because that is the ONLY way the military is authorized to assume civil police powers in this country. "

yea, but most of the talking experts don't know this?

We could pull the troops from europe I think but congress would have to do some law changin first !

[Texasforever]

The 450 national guard troops were placed under control of the INS. That put them out of command and control of the DOD. That is constitutionally sound.

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Shouldn't a President who willfully violates the Constitution be impeached?

[america-rules]

How many troops?
At least 100,000 !

Were do we get the manpower?
Pull them from europe !

Who pays?
We pay !

What restrictions will Americans be forced to adhere to?

The left would be in a fenzy but saying the troops are getting desert training might work to shut them up?

[Texasforever]

Yep. The first would be a repeal of the posse comitatus act. THEN watch the militia groups howl.

[Captainpaintball]

I know I've said this many, many times on FR, but I think more people need to hear it:

Line the entire border with nuclear waste!

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Perhaps you missed this:

In a petition to the president, Mr. Tancredo's group said the post-Civil War Posse Comitatus Act and later congressional provisions allowed the president to deploy the military to help enforce state and federal laws

[Texasforever]

Shouldn't a President who willfully violates the Constitution be impeached?

Shouldn’t posters that deliberately lie be banned? I actually went and did my research. The 450 NG troops were NOT under DOD control They were assigned to the INS. Nice try.

[Hostage]

The illegal invasion is planned and orchestrated from abroad. I've had an in-your-face encounter on more than one occasion with supporters of the invasion telling me it's too late for us. I wish there was someway the Bush administration could communicate that they know what's up and that they have a plan. It would set a great many minds at ease.

[Texasforever]

In a petition to the president, Mr. Tancredo's group said the post-Civil War Posse Comitatus Act and later congressional provisions allowed the president to deploy the military to help enforce state and federal laws

Then I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT DOCUMENTATION. This idiot Tancredo is just NOT credo. I assume then that you supported Delta force involvement at Waco?

[lavaroise]

Martial law for illigal immigrants, what is wrong with that? It is a perfect matter of border and Federal/Military jurisdiction.

[Texasforever]

Martial law for illigal immigrants, what is wrong with that? It is a perfect matter of border and Federal/Military jurisdiction.

Sorry but you don't understand a dammed thing about martial law.

[sarcasm]

So, by your logic, circumvention of a Constitutional prohibition is acceptable as long as your guy does it. How Clintonian.