Raise wage (Ithaca barf alert)

Ithaca Journal ^ | Tuesday, June 18, 2002 | Patricia Leary

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Would it be a job or slavery to pay someone a dollar a week for full-time work? How about a dollar a day? A dollar an hour? The critical difference between employment and slavery obviously hinges on whether the pay can support basic survival.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

The critical difference between employment and slavery obviously hinges on whether the pay can support basic survival.

No, moron, the critical difference hinges on whether it is entered into voluntarily or involuntarily, whether it is based upon the free market value of the labor or whether it is based on a basic denial of human rights.

Next this idiot Ithacite will probably demand reparations for anyone who has a minimum wage job.

Ithaca is the City of Evil.

[camle]

I gots a better idee:

who are YOU to tell another person how much to pay a third person for work done for that person?

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Bump.

Apparently, Leary is has run for the City Council, meaning she could have enacted (or may still enact) her bizarre "anti slavery minimum wage" theories at some point.

And, perhaps even more bizarrely, she is employed at the as Publications Manager at Cornell's "Johnson Graduate School of Management", which should make one pause to question what sort of business management one would learn if they were to matriculate there.

Ithaca is the City of Evil.

[miner89]

By this definition, all volunteer work is slavery.

I do support a minimum wage, because I think there are unethical businessmen that would figure out ways to abuse people by paying them much less if they could.

HOWEVER, the minimum wage should not be a living wage for the simple reason that many people who desire work do not wish to do so in order to have living wages. The housewife trying to supplement the family income or the teenager trying to save for his first car do not need a full living wage

Incidently, let's think through the ramifications of this from the liberal view point. A family of four all work at a "living wage" minimum wage job, the kids half time. This equals 3 living wages for one family. This qualifies the family as rich and as such we should tax them more, correct?

[Behind Liberal Lines]

who are YOU to tell another person how much to pay a third person for work done for that person?

Welcome to the "enlightened" liberals of Ithaca, the City of Evil.

A few typical Ithacans:

(To order "Ithaca is the City of Evil" merchandise, courtesy of FREEPER "the," Click Here).

[camle]

don't scare me - I might have to go to ROchester, which is in the general vicinity (within an hour's drive) friday. Chilling.

[from occupied ga]

Ithaca is the City of Evil.

Not to mention stupidity and ignorance as well - but of course you can't be a leftist and have the ability to reason intact.

[Zon]

Politicians and bureaucrats create and implement about 3,000 new laws each year -- year after year they do that and the number of new laws each year increases on average. They claim each year's new laws are must have laws that people and society can't live without.

Question: How is it that people and society have survived and increased prosperity for years and decades despite not having the supposed benefit of those laws. And actually increased prosperity in spite of the burdening laws that are in effect at the time.

If it were not for the hundreds-of-thousand of laws and regulations that parasitical elites in government have foisted on people and especially businesses that bear the biggest burden, a person making five dollars and hour would probably live as prosperously as if they were making twenty dollars an hour with the leviathan government on their back. Not to mention who knows how many valuable products and services would have come to market without those laws and regulations hindering creativity and productivity. But we will never begin to know what we should have rightfully earned until we throw the parasites off our backs.

The only people that need 3,000 new laws each year are politicians and bureaucrats so that they can justify their unearned paychecks.

Wake up! They are the parasites. We are the host. We don't need them. They need us.

[the]

By this definition, all volunteer work is slavery.

You are kidding, right? You don't actually believe that, do you? Did you forget to put a </sarcasm> after that part of your post? Is your dictionary printed by the NewSpeak Language Coalition?

For the record:

slav·er·y Pronunciation Key  (slv-r, slvr)
n. pl. slav·er·ies

1. The state of one bound in servitude as the property of a slaveholder or household.

vol·un·teer   Pronunciation Key  (vln-tîr)
n.

1. A person who performs or offers to perform a service voluntarily: an information booth staffed by volunteers; hospital volunteers.

[Phantom Lord]

The correct wages for a job is where what a qualified candidate will do it for and what the employer will pay meet.

[Phantom Lord]

Ever notice that all the lefties that cry foul and demand a living wage NEVER open a business and put their demands on others into practice themselves.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

"the minimum wage was supposed to be the minimum livable wage, ie., what one needed to live on, to meet basic needs without charity or government assistance"

What is a minimum wage LAW if not government assistance (in the form of a mandate instead of direct funding)? And what is a "wage" that is higher than a true market wage if not charity? Minimum wage laws are state-mandated private charity.

[Phantom Lord]

Speaking of a family of four. If memory serves me right, there was a business owner a few years back during the 'minimum wage/living wage' debate that put out a challenge. Lefties in congress were talking of the family of four living on minimum wage, bla bla bla.

Well this guy said that he would hire any head of household of a family of four who was supporting the family on a minimum wage job and pay him $65,000 a year.

Not a single person stepped forward to take the job. Because they DO NOT exist.

And also think I remember a study a few years back that showed over 90% of minimum wage jobs are held by teenagers in highschool working part time.

[Mr. Bird]

would restore the original intent of the law

I think coffee just came out of my nose....

[Zon]

LOL! Oh my gosh, if it wasn't coffee, what...

But it's probably best to assume it was coffee.

[Constitutional Patriot]

Another cry for social justice from the "intellectual elite". These people know nothing of how the real world operates. This is demonstrated by the overwhelming success of economies and societies that foster these utopian ideas.

[kidd]

Not to worry. In general, upstate New York is quite conservative. Ithaca is just a very strange small island in the middle of it all.

You will be an hour away from Skaneateles too, home of Doug's Fish Fry - where they have the Hillary sandwich on the menu - and they advertise it as "mostly baloney".

[general_re]

Ah, Doug's Fish Fry. That brings back some memories - do they still have the one out in Mattydale?;)

[thatsnotnice]

Oddly, and I don’t know how the Ithaca Journal operates, newspapers and radio/tv often use a number of unpaid interns. Someone should look into that and bring it to their attention if it is the case with them. I’m sure they’d be willing to pay a living wage to interns.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

I don’t know how the Ithaca Journal operates, (but) newspapers and radio/tv often use a number of unpaid interns. Someone should look into that and bring it to their attention if it is the case with them. I’m sure they’d be willing to pay a living wage to interns.

C'mon, my friend, you know as well as I do that the media always expects their particular "business" to be exempted from the usual government regulations. ;-)