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To: ELS
>So, you're saying the government should promote
>the religion of atheism?

Atheism is not a religion. If you disagree, please provide the name of the deity that atheists worship.

>How about the free exercise of religion spoken of in
>the Constitution?

You're free to display and do whatever you want on private property.

Well, unless you're wiccan, because they're evil devil worshippers, right?

>How is Congress passing a law establishing a
>religion by there being a cross on the WTC site?

Because they're planning on using the tax dollars of jews, mulsims, atheists, flat-earthers and democrats to build it.

And whether or not you like it, they're Americans too.

-Scott in KC

56 posted on 06/18/2002 7:58:02 AM PDT by gura
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To: gura
Atheism is not a religion. If you disagree, please provide the name of the deity that atheists worship.

You evidently define religion as the worship of a deity. I would dispute that.

58 posted on 06/18/2002 8:05:14 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: gura
Atheism is not a religion. If you disagree, please provide the name of the deity that atheists worship.

One does not have to worship a personal deity, or any deity at all, to be participating in a religion.

Religions that believe in the spirit of the rocks and trees, or that the earth is our mother, are an example of the former. Buddhism is an example of the latter.

You can dispute whether atheism is a religion or merely a world view. In my opinion, for some "atheists" it's a world view. For others, it's a religion.

For the particular people demanding the cross at ground zero be removed, it's their religion.

64 posted on 06/18/2002 8:23:34 AM PDT by john in missouri
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To: gura
How about the free exercise of religion spoken of in the Constitution?

You're free to display and do whatever you want on private property.

So, you're free to express your opinion on private property only? You're free to peaceably assemble on private property only? You're free to petition the government about grievances on private property only? You're free to associate with whomever you chose on private property only? Interesting logic you have.

How is Congress passing a law establishing a religion by there being a cross on the WTC site?

Because they're planning on using the tax dollars of jews, mulsims, atheists, flat-earthers and democrats to build it.

Show me the law Congress passed making Christianity the state religion.

73 posted on 06/18/2002 8:59:18 AM PDT by ELS
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To: gura
Sorry, but a "religion" is not defined by worshipping a deity. Buddhism is a religion and does not worship any deity.

A religion is a system for relating to the transcendent. Atheism qualifies: it relates to the transcendent by being rude to all suggestions of transcendence, ignoring it at every turn and vilifying those to attempt to relate to the transcendent in a more open manner.

76 posted on 06/18/2002 9:06:26 AM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: gura
"Atheism is not a religion. If you disagree, please provide the name of the deity that atheists worship"

They are certainly as zealous in their extreme belief in a lack of deities as any religious zealot I've ever met. They are as organized as any major religion, and as dedicated to creating "converts" as any religious zealot. They worship no deity as stringently as some worship A deity. I see no difference between their behavior and that of pro-(religion______here) extremists.

For the sake of argument...and because this is their most common argument, how about I accuse them of worshipping GOVERNMENT FUNDING?

108 posted on 06/18/2002 11:15:46 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: gura
Atheism is not a religion. If you disagree, please provide the name of the deity that atheists worship.

Do you think Buddhism is a religion?

161 posted on 06/18/2002 2:18:03 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: gura
Atheism is not a religion. If you disagree, please provide the name of the deity that atheists worship.

they worship "themselves".

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Romans 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

172 posted on 06/18/2002 3:36:16 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave
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