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To: David_H
Yes, David, Mr. Scientist, I do have a limited experience with Higher Education: Limited to a business/economics degree and an engineering degree and work on my masters....you are soooooo right. Strike out again? As for your views, no I labeled you Socialist from your other views, to include your views of previous arguements, when you weren't so busy dodging unsavery facts, such as the powers of the government and gun control. I also labeled you liberatarian, since you cross over into both camps. Try reading a bit harder...comprehension comes in well on research.
42 posted on 06/20/2002 2:04:39 PM PDT by Stavka2
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To: Stavka2
Yes, David, Mr. Scientist, I do have a limited experience with Higher Education: Limited to a business/economics degree and an engineering degree and work on my masters....you are soooooo right.

Then why are you so ready to pour scorn on someone who is "still at college"? I was not insulting your intelligence by making that comment. You are obviously a very intelligent man. Its just that military types tend to scorn anyone who is in University because they immediately think of hippies and peaceniks. I say that from bitter personal experience.

So, Russia is not the next to worst and South Africa is not the worst. Besides, every educated person (on the subject) knows that Columbia has the highest murder rate and that Jamaica is close behind.

The source I checked recently had South Africa down as the worst and Russia second. Although, it may not have been the most up to date data available.

Oh, but I bet you don't have to worry about such things in comfy urbantopia....well some of us do. And because of brutish people like myself, people like you are able to enjoy what you enjoy while down grading what we do or simply insulting it straight out.

As I said to you before my uncle and father were soldiers in the British army and my uncle served in Cyprus during the troubles. His best friend was shot dead there actually. Also they had friends who served in Northern Ireland and had to run the gauntlet of the IRA. I am well aware of the dangers that armies run fighting terrorists and guerillas. I simply maintain that when you use torture, false imprisonment etc against civilians to catch the terrorists, you risk encouraging sympathy for the terrorists.

43 posted on 06/20/2002 2:41:12 PM PDT by David_H
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To: Stavka2
I bet you think those people celebrating in the streets in Ramahala after a homocider zipper head takes out school children, are just miss understood and really aren't supporting murder. Well, same in Russia.

No, I think they are their own worst enemies, who are prepared to send off family members to die needlessly and incur the legitimate wrath or the Isrealis. They have been hard done by in the past, but by resorting to a suicide bombing campaign they are doing nothing but damage to themselves.

You don't seem to be able to admit that many civilians in Chechnya are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. They are being victimised by the Islamic fundamentalist rebels and also by the Russian army.

44 posted on 06/20/2002 3:00:27 PM PDT by David_H
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