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6-16-02
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Posted on 06/16/2002 5:32:24 AM PDT by magnum opus dejure
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To: Jhoffa_
He was a soldier in the Taliban. At that time, we could care less about the Taliban. JJ was just stuck in a bad place. If I thought he had actually taken up arms against the USA, I would be all for lining him up in front of a firing squad. parsy the not as liberal as you think.
To: Jhoffa_
I find your analogy all wet.This man is a enemy combatant, in a time of war, with a criminal record, having served time for murder, a known al Quada operative, who may have been involved in OKC, and you are worried about the possibility of being snatched from your bed one night under a different administration, for the crime of.....?????? You planning on doing something that would put you in front of a military tribunal??
To: Sir Gawain; Admin Moderator; zip
I have friends that lurk here and don't post, but log in so they can see pings to them. Do they never post at all? Being an old Usenet hand, I can appreciate the logic and bandwidth-friendliness of lurking, but lurking for an entire year or more without ever posting (which is what I suggested) seems a bit excessive.
Alternately, your friends could drop Jim an email stating their wish to use their accounts to lurk without posting, and could subsequently have them placed on the "safe" list.
843
posted on
06/16/2002 9:00:20 PM PDT
by
strela
To: parsifal
Oh, well, if Drudge says that -- especially on a Sunday night -- it must be true.
844
posted on
06/16/2002 9:01:33 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: Jhoffa_
LOL! -- I'll bring the beer!It gives me a use for these Father's Day neckties too!
To: Fred Mertz
but Moussaoui was in a lighted cell for 24 hours per day. Sounds like nothing, but for 30 or 45 days, it takes its toll. Oh for crying out loud. Prisoners are kept in lighted cells all the time. Many are on suicide watch. Could it be that if he was willing to die by crashing an airplane into a building that he was fully capable of dying for his cause in jail just to deny American justice?
To: sneakypete
I can't even fathom what it is that makes a persons mind work like that. I sleep peacefully. How about you?
To: habs4ever
What is so hard about the Padilla case? There doesn't seem to be anything hard about it.
Why the need to play balanced and fair?
Why NOT play balanced and fair? How does this hurt anything?
Its straightforward..the man is a killer, terrorist and is an enemy of the US
From what we know,you seem to be right about this. Since this seems to be such a slam-dunk,why bother to cut corners?
To: carenot
It's in the courts now.
Habeus corpus does not mean that one gets released- it means only that a court reviews ones detention to see if it is lawful.
Going by the published reports, I think this guy will not be released by the courts.
849
posted on
06/16/2002 9:02:43 PM PDT
by
mrsmith
To: Jhoffa_
Agreed.
850
posted on
06/16/2002 9:02:57 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: parsifal
He was a soldier in the Taliban. At that time, we could care less about the Taliban. JJ was just stuck in a bad place. If I thought he had actually taken up arms against the USA, I would be all for lining him up in front of a firing squad.
We may have to dissagree over this.
I mean, I wouldn't have such a problem with someone running off and joining the Radical Muslim version of the Foreign Legion if we didn't happen to be fighting them at the time.
I mean, hey.. war zone.. had a gun. Looks pretty bad from here.
parsy the not as liberal as you think.
I know..
:)
851
posted on
06/16/2002 9:03:01 PM PDT
by
Jhoffa_
To: strela
Do we really want to be "safe"??? I would rather be challenged. Most disruptors do not seem to be able to take the heat around here. Those who sincerely disagree on some typically conservative sacred cows, like me, stick around and take our lumps. parsy.
To: parsifal
JJ is a twerp, at the very least, but the gov't has come down on him the way the ATF came down on WACO.I don't believe your posted this bilge. So, Jihad Johnny is your pet project and hero now because the government picked him up and is holding him for trial?
Amazing.
Jihad Johnny was the sworn enemy of the US. Our troops should have come down on him HARDER than the ATF came down on the Branch Davidians. Much harder. And much, much faster. There should have been nothing more than scattered pieces of cooling flesh remaining of the Jihad-man after the B-52s finished dropping their CARE packages on his filthy, turbaned, scuzzbucket, traitorous head.
To: ValerieUSA
Naw, those calves don't have that much meat.
854
posted on
06/16/2002 9:03:42 PM PDT
by
carenot
To: mrsmith
You may file for Habeas Corpus, however, if the government refuses to produce the charge and still confines you, then his rights to review and defend himself against the charge are not there. Then his h.c. rights have been denied, after a fact.
To: Spyder
If the party becomes the right-wing-fundamentalist-Christian-Republicans-only-allowedI thought that was what we were trying to get away from right now!
856
posted on
06/16/2002 9:04:16 PM PDT
by
Howlin
To: Fred Mertz;texasforever
but Moussaoui was in a lighted cell for 24 hours per day. Sounds like nothing, but for 30 or 45 days, it takes its toll.You wait here, I will go tell my cousin to run out to her dead fiancee's grave (who they pulled out New Years Eve) and tell him how bad his murderers have it. You're a frikkin idiot. Get out of America, why don't you. Or maybe you already are. Posting from Pali Land, are you?
To: parsifal
"He was a soldier in the Taliban. At that time, we could care less about the Taliban. JJ was just stuck in a bad place"Tell that to Johnny "Mike" Spann's Widow
858
posted on
06/16/2002 9:04:57 PM PDT
by
MJY1288
To: Lazamataz
LAZ, one more time HE HAS BEEN CHARGED.
To: Sir Gawain;strela;Admin Moderator
BAD idea. I have friends that lurk here and don't post, but log in so they can see pings to them.You are right, but only in the short run. In the long run, it's a great idea. The few lurkers affected can reregister each year but the disruptors with "sleeper" screennames would be forced to change MO's.
BTW, good seeing you again.
860
posted on
06/16/2002 9:05:24 PM PDT
by
zip
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