Posted on 06/16/2002 5:32:24 AM PDT by magnum opus dejure
Well, it's been 4 years since I first found Free Republic. I have always felt like I belonged here and have really enjoyed the banter back and forth between us members. I am afraid all this is now over. I am really suprised and shocked at it's suddenness. Before I leave I want to thank a freeper from Michigan who sent me a DVD player last year to give to my kids for Christmas. You reaffirmed my faith in humanity.
I know this thread will be deleted before many people get to read it, but I just can't go without saying a final word. Every since 911 the 'vibe' here at FR has been decidedly hostile. I guess it was a matter of time before the newbie moderator got around to weeding me out for my sometimes unpopular views. So I join the ranks of A+Bert and so many others who gave FR a interesting flavor. I will miss coming here 20 times a day and keeping up on things. But without posting priviledges there is just no point. I must go find another conservative group to try to be a part of.
In the future, when a freeper who has been a loyal member since August 1998 crosses the line, how about a note instead of banning? Would that have been too much? I may have gotten out of line, how is beyond me, but if such a tresspass would have been pointed out I would gladly have refrained from doing so again. It is just not right to just ban an account with no explaination. Especially when the freeper has been here 4 years. I have no idea what I am going to do with my days now that I no longer have FR. Well, I guess I have said my part. It is a sad day when one has to leave family and friends. I feel like some of you were just that. But apparently I am no longer wanted around here. I bid my good day to you all and hope that karma pays it's respects to those who do injustice.
I dunno, MAF, we said MUCH worse when Clinton was in charge ;)
Geeze. Stop whining.
Along with the rest of the country. Why is there any question about this? What else can you call his desire to make instant citizens out of millions of illegal aliens?
Small claims division?
If we are a member of a group that the congress authorizes the president to use military force against- then yes, we could be detained as military combatants by the US military.
If we are American citizens, then we have a right to habeous corpus proceedings.
And if we are members of the group congress authorized military force against, the courts will agree that we are appropriately treated as military detainees.
What is wrong with that?
Gotta go eat.
You're coming apart like a cheap suit, sneaky.
Reaganesque?
No. He said American citizens would not be tried by military tribunals. They have already announced that Padilla would not be tried by military tribunal.
Don't be a sap, Laz.
Moral Equivalency would only be established in the Mexicans had agreed to the establishment of a Texan Republic, and then reneged on the deal. Because that correctly describes the Legal state-of-affairs between the Zionists and the Arab Nationalists, 1917-1947. A HISTORY OF BETRAYAL: The Zionist Establishment of Israel
As good as the US claim to the American Southwest is, the Israeli claim to Jewish Palestine is legally better. I honestly think that the Zionist Claim is one of the BEST land-claims in the history of International Law.
A negotiated bilateral deal was struck, fair-and-square, at the Treaty of Paris. The Zionists agreed that they would support the Arab Nationalist claim to the establishment of their own Arab Nations in 99% of the post-Turkish Middle East, and the Arab Nationalists agreed that they would support the Zionist Claim to the establishment of their own Jewish Nation in 1% of the post-Turkish Middle East.
However, once their own Arab Nations were established, THE ARAB NATIONALISTS RENEGED ON THE DEAL.
It was nothing but a cynical back-stab, from the beginning. 99% of the Middle East was not good enough for the Arabs; they broke the Covenants of the Treaty of Paris, and demanded the whole enchilada.
THAT is the Legal History of the Arab-Zionist conflict. Period.
I think the point is that the government has the same potential for "terror" as the terrorists. The issue is assessing the potential for that terror esp. with regard to the government's power. Is it probable or not? (Remember...Bush won't always be president... you might trust him, but if Hillary ever becomes president you wouldn't trust her with precedents set by this administration)
We were terrified of what the Clinton administration could do, we should be terrified of what ANY administration could do.
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Our patience has been rewarded, --- not with a victory over our enemies, -- but with repressive schemes to tighten security in the 'homeland'.
- Yep, there's no doubt that 'we shall see' where this leads.
-- When Hillary leads.
Up the English!
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