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It is easy to want to bash the bigots who are taking advantange of the painful crisis the Church is going through to advance their sectarian agenda against Mother Church. They combine the evil truths that have come out about what happenned in the church with various legends and misunderstandings by themselves and the media. Nonsense linking these offenses to Church teachings, nonsense like the idea that this is a problem of pedophilia, rather than of pederasty, nonsense linking these crimes to celibacy (when the problem is LACK of celibacy).

We have to face the fact that there are many so called Christians who enjoy seeing other Christians suffer for their faith, as we are sufferring for ours now. It is fairly obvious that the media is turning the same eye on Protestant sins that they have been placing on Catholic sins, all in furtherance of the anti-Christian mission of the media. They have even starting to expose the pedophilia of the school systems, as CNN did this morning. I trust that we will not react to these future attacks on the Protestants with the gloating we are seeing from SOME Protestants here. Just as I did not use the discovery of scandals among Fundamentalists and Evangelicals a few years ago to further a Catholic agenda against them, but recognized the media attacks as part of the Cultural Wars, of the sinful against those who strive to oppose sin.

Sure, the Media is anti-christian, regardless of denomionation, but why are we condemning those who expose the sins of the church, rather than the sins themselves? The Church is supposed to be the light of the world! Totally illuminated in a world of eternal night, every scar and mole on the face of the church, will stand exposed. The mission of the church is to intensify the light and remove it's flaws-not dim the light.

THe media is doing what the media is supposed to do, though it's reason for doing so may be biased. THe mission of the Church is to clean up it's act to the point that the more the exposure the more God is Glorified.

General,

Your arguments and motives for them are understandable to me, but often not compelling enough for others, especially the more atheistic of those with a libertarian bent or with those who otherwise are susceptible to or find joy in this secular divisiveness.

Perhaps your efforts would be aided by linking your arguments to one of my observations you and I have batted around a bit and see if it doesn't strike a harmony.

Those who seek the further weakening of our great republic are more well aware of what missing elements helped bring down the Roman Republic than are many FReepers, and certainly among the ones with whom you are in discussion here.

You also are wishful if not hopeful of an American rebirth that would make us worthy. You are as knowledgable as I in this department, and so could readily buttress your case in this manner when you enter these discussions -- which you do far more frequently than I.

The attempts by power seekers to fatally wound one of the pillars of our republic (that the Roman Republic did not have and the Empire adopted too late) is quite transparent to us. It certainly can't hurt to make it clear to more FReepers.