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17 Year Old Hacks Into Pentagon, Learns Location Of U.S. Warheads. Kid: "It Was Child's Play."
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Posted on 06/14/2002 1:23:17 PM PDT by hawaiian

The Pentagon has had its second major intelligence embarrassment in a week after a teenager in Austria hacked into secret plans, including the location of US nuclear missiles.

The exploits of Markus Hirsch, 17, come only days after British surveillance enthusiast John Locker was able to hack into US spy satellite pictures.

Now an FBI team is on its way to Vienna to question Markus. Their big fear is that Osama bin Laden followers may have enjoyed similar access for months. Full Story


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To: hawaiian
BS!

Relax
I doubt if this boy cracked anything classified. Since I have work with classified DOD computer systems before, the good stuff doesn't even touch the Internet. Getting by the crypto is not "childs play."

He may have seen some stuff he thought was classified, or it was classified on an unclassified computer, in which some fool could get in trouble for.

And the other thing about the guy seeing raw video feed from Bosnia, The pentagon said it was intended to go unsecure.

The source for this story seems suspect to me.

41 posted on 06/14/2002 3:00:35 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: hawaiian
In follow up to #41 here is a shot of a missle silo in Montana from Terraserver.

It's the square patch in the middle. That's I-15 running next to it.

42 posted on 06/14/2002 3:22:31 PM PDT by CholeraJoe
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To: hawaiian
Geez with Windows 2000 I have a hell of a time accessing the computers I am supposed to be on!
43 posted on 06/14/2002 3:34:20 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: hawaiian
If I recall correctly; the military stopped using the public internet for comminication well over 10 years ago. The only .mil sites on the internet as we know it contain no sensitive data. I suspect the kid hacked into a trap.
44 posted on 06/14/2002 3:35:02 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: dubyaismypresident
Private as far as I know. Could not locate on OTCBB nor NASDAQ. I should say I have no financial interest in it. I only passed along the web addy as I understand the product is same as that being distributed by gov.

Also, a Tri-State driver I know has carried them for sometime now...

Not sure what they will do if the time comes. But for $10? Why not?

45 posted on 06/14/2002 3:45:36 PM PDT by donozark
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To: donozark
I should say I have no financial interest in it.

I wasn't accusing, I was looking for an investment.

46 posted on 06/14/2002 3:51:31 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
No problem. My statements tend to be rather short, even curt. Not meant that way. From an investment point of view? Not sure, not qualified to give investment advice-and my portfolio demonstrates such!

I did check the packet itself and upon opening it says "distributed by Anbex NYNY 10016. Still unable to locate on OTC.

48 posted on 06/14/2002 3:57:11 PM PDT by donozark
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To: 4ourprogeny
Is it any wonder the AlQaeda know the military's every move before they do? Is it any wonder binnie von lauden was always two steps ahead until they got him on the run?
49 posted on 06/14/2002 3:58:56 PM PDT by swatter
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To: hawaiian
"It Was Child's Play."
Yes it was child's play - because hacking tools have gotten easier to use to the point where an idiot (as proof here and drivers on our nation's roads and highways demonstrates) can do it ...
50 posted on 06/14/2002 3:59:08 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: hawaiian
I see absolutely no serious attempts to stop hackers. If you have DSL or Cable, someone will be banging on your computer all day long.

I think that firewalls should automatically report all unauthorized attempted entries to a central database with date, time and port number. After a while, there would be a trail of where these twerps are coming from. ISPs could be alerted that their systems are being abused and with date, time and port numbers a lot of the twerps could be pinpointed. There are some attempts now to store data on spammers.

It would bust the training wheels off of the less tricky hackers.

There is a firewall software for Macs that sends reports back to ISPs that unauthorized port scans are coming from, that's a good start.

51 posted on 06/14/2002 4:00:47 PM PDT by ibme
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To: katya8
Big risk of them getting into a nuke missle site and stealing the warhead....right?

And then arming and detonating would be easy...right?

The ignorant author also believes we still have "multi-megaton" weapons on our ICBMs.

52 posted on 06/14/2002 4:01:38 PM PDT by GlesenerL
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To: hawaiian
Let this child play in JAIL where he belongs.
53 posted on 06/14/2002 4:35:57 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: hawaiian
Give the kid a scholarship..

Then stop flying by the seat of your pants and calling it freedom.
54 posted on 06/14/2002 4:47:37 PM PDT by a_Turk
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To: hawaiian
The British guy did not hack, the images are being broadcast on commercial satellites. As to the kid, I wonder how much of those types of hacks are actually misinformation being allowed by the military.
55 posted on 06/14/2002 6:14:49 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: 4ourprogeny
Loose lips? Come on, join the internet generation. There are web sites that advertise that sort of thing. If the Air Force wanted the location kept secret, they wouldn't have allowed an interstate to be built just outside the gate.
56 posted on 06/14/2002 6:15:08 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: all
Marcus Hirsch (name sounds Jewish anyway), of Austria and aged 17, ought to be offered US citizenship and immediate employment at the NSA or other selected agency.

He joins his countryman, Arnold S., neither of them could ever rise in Austria to the level they will here.

57 posted on 06/14/2002 6:21:09 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Wright is right!
The TV satellite pix were NOT HACKED

Apparently in your world "hacked" means "malicious hacking".

By common definition the signals were hacked since they were not readily available through commercial subscription.

58 posted on 06/14/2002 7:18:18 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Jumper; daviddennis
Trust me, there are no unprotected NT servers sitting around at Army Installations. Besides, even if there were some NT servers with security holes in them.... our routers have the ports blocked.

Are there people in the U.S. government who might bring a laptop home, say, and connect it to a LAN at their house? What about an official who connects to a government computer from home but has perhaps had a Trojan-horse keystroke logger installed on his home machine. I'm sure things are much better protected now than they were before the "hackers' war" in 2001, but still.... There are many ways to skin a cat. [And, notwithstanding the "hackers' war," this isn't about the defacement of web sites.]

60 posted on 06/14/2002 8:22:43 PM PDT by Mitchell
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