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To: CyberCowboy777
This is hilarious...you claim that i better provide 'infallible' sources to back my claims of the earth being older than 6,000 years old! And then to back up your claims you provide the Bible....which in this particular case requires faith to accept (note the emphasis). And thus you want to combat my facts with your faith....and yet have the temerity to ask me for 'infallible proof.'

What if i asked you for the same...and not from the pages of some tome written ages ago back in some sort of provable means...whether it be a voice from the heavens of scientific proof! I am 100% certain you would answer me with claims of 'i do not have to' or that i am 'a heathen sinner who is not worthy of an answer!' It is interesting that people like you always react in an acerbic manner to anyone who offers a countering statement to your beliefs!

Anyway back to my 'infallible' facts! First of all only megalomaniacs and loonies believe in infallibe absolute stuff(and even though God may be infallible it is humans who 'interpret' his meanings, and humans are defnitely not infallible, and thus may taint any absolute truth through their 'interpretations').

And thus i would like for you to also provide 'infallible' proof...and before you start quoting Biblical verses claiming that since they are the word of God they are infallible (which would be an easy way out for you) it would be nice for you to provide conclusive proof that can be accepted and proven. After all it would be easy for me to bring a book of Fairy tales and claim that since it talks of unicorns and mer-men they exist!

Anyway back to my sources! First of all you can find backing for my assertations from ANY book backed by scientific fact that analyzes geographical history (the various ages of the earth), delves into history and pre-history (the various civilizations and lithic ages), biology (the time span for the current genetic diversity to occur), physics (the cooling stages of the mantle and the condensation of the atmosphere to allow for percolation), chemistry, and a host of many other fields and facets. Basically if you have a child ask him or her for her science book, or maybe go to your local library! You will find my 'sources' there!

However if you are referring to the sources for the post i put on FR they are as follows:

It is from a site http://www.crystalinks.com/narmer.html

Or you could simply do a search on the web for resources on ancient civilizations and also on the age of the earth! Or as i said before go to the library and check on the age of the earth!

Here are some sources on the age of the Earth:

The generally accepted age for the Earth and the rest of the solar system is about 4.55 billion years (plus or minus about 1%). This value is derived from several different lines of evidence.

The oldest rocks which have been found so far (on the Earth) date to about 3.8 to 3.9 billion years ago (by several radiometric dating methods). Some of these rocks are sedimentary, and include minerals which are themselves as old as 4.1 to 4.2 billion years. Rocks of this age are relatively rare, however rocks that are at least 3.5 billion years in age have been found on North America, Greenland, Australia, Africa, and Asia.

While these values do not compute an age for the Earth, they do establish a lower limit (the Earth must be at least as old as any formation on it). This lower limit is at least concordant with the independently derived figure of 4.55 billion years for the Earth's actual age

The most direct means for calculating the Earth's age is a Pb/Pb isochron age, derived from samples of the Earth and meteorites. This involves measurement of three isotopes of lead (Pb-206, Pb-207, and either Pb-208 or Pb-204). A plot is constructed of Pb-206/Pb-204 versus Pb-207/Pb-204.

Over time, the amounts of Pb-206 and Pb-207 will change in some samples, as these isotopes are decay end-products of uranium decay (U-238 decays to Pb-206, and U-235 decays to Pb-207). This causes the data points to separate from each other. The higher the uranium-to-lead ratio of a rock, the more the Pb-206/Pb-204 and Pb-207/Pb-204 values will change with time.

There are also other measurement methods apart from the radiological method. These are: The Accumulation of Helium in the Atmosphere; The Decay of the Earth's Magnetic field; The Accumulation of Metals into the Oceans.

204 posted on 06/14/2002 1:48:33 PM PDT by spetznaz
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To: spetznaz
I did not quote bible verses. And I do not claim that I am absolutely right. Nor do I make fun of those who disagree with me.

We do not have in-fallible methods of measurement and all have been proven to be wrong to varying degrees. They also require constant environments or rely of known of today being applied to the past.

The point is that Old Earth/Macroevolution is not proven and there is evidence that may point to the Flood theory.

I did not however claim it scientifically as anything more than a theory which is more than I can say for your crowd.

216 posted on 06/14/2002 2:01:00 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: spetznaz
There are also other measurement methods apart from the radiological method. These are: The Accumulation of Helium in the Atmosphere; The Decay of the Earth's Magnetic field; The Accumulation of Metals into the Oceans.

Yes there are. And all have opposing views with Scientific evidence. I think I covered The Accumulation of Helium in the Atmosphere; The Decay of the Earth's Magnetic field; The Accumulation of Mud into the Oceans.

219 posted on 06/14/2002 2:06:54 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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