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To: ZULU
Elsie, you're probably a nice lady. (I'm not...)But you are missing the point. (probably...... our definition of words may be different so we are talking past one another.)

Do you know the old tale, of the blind men and the elephant? Well, humans are the same when trying to discribe 'god', God, G-d or GOD. (Did I include enough different spellings to satisfy most people? I purposely left out Jehovah, Yahweh, YHWH, Allah, Krishna......)


MY definition of 'fundamentalist' would be a person that believes that what is written in his 'holy book' is true, and tries to follow that. That will exclude the others, who may say that they are believers, too, that somehow do NOT think that many things in the book is true, and substitute their OWN ideas about how to live.
118 posted on 06/17/2002 7:12:03 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Elsie
Most Christians will tend to agree that the OT is useful to see how God related to His people in the past, and the NT contains how to relate to Him now.
 
We do not rush out to kill our enemies and displace them from their lands, because of their relious beliefs today.

 
Matthew 5:43-45
 43.  "You have heard that it was said, `Love your neighbor  and hate your enemy.'
 44.  But I tell you: Love your enemies  and pray for those who persecute you,
 45.  that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
 
 
Matthew 13:27-30
 27.  "The owner's servants came to him and said, `Sir, didn't you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?'
 28.  "`An enemy did this,' he replied.   "The servants asked him, `Do you want us to go and pull them up?'
 29.  "`No,' he answered, `because while you are pulling the weeds, you may root up the wheat with them.
 30.  Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.'"
 
 
Luke 6:26-28
 26.  Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets.
 27.  "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
 28.  bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
 
 
Luke 6:35
 35.  But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
 
 
Romans 12:17-21
 17.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody.
 18.  If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.
 19.  Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"  says the Lord.
 20.  On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."
 21.  Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
 
 
Galatians 4:16
 16.  Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?

 

On the other hand, Muslims claim EVERYTHING in their book is to be taken as Gospel (now THERE is an inverted use of the word!)
 
Strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah and your enemies.
Surah 8:60

Fight, kill them (non muslims ) and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame.
Surah 9:14

O Ye who believe! Fight the unbelievers, let them find harshness in you and know Allah is with those who fear him.
Surah 9:123

From the sayings of Mohammed:
I Have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, none has the right to be worshipped but Allah.
Al-Bukhari Vol 4:196
 

So, while some may claim that the 'same' Supreme Being is worshipped (under different names), the written works of each is so dissimilar that this assertion is seen to be incorrect, if the written word is, indeed, caused to be written by the same god.


121 posted on 06/17/2002 7:33:27 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: Elsie
The problem Elsie, is that other people's idea of the Holy Book differs to a degree from yours. Although the Torah, Bible and Koran are similar, the last named is a different book altogether, but believed by its followers to be based on the teachings of the Bible and Torah as well as the prophecies of Mohammad.

I don't think anyone can second guess God. The salvation of every person is in His hands and all we can do is try to live the best life possible and follow God's words as we understand them to be.

124 posted on 06/17/2002 7:44:53 AM PDT by ZULU
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