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To: exmarine
Hey, Ex-Marine.

I am the last one to defend Islam, but by your definition of what constitutes the "Christian" God, you would therefore postulate that the Jews don't worship the same God we do, simply because they don't accept Christ as the Son that of God.

YOUR statemnt is both absurd and religiously bigoted. Read some books about comparative theology. Allah, Yahweh and "God" are the same person whether or not you accept Christ as his son.

110 posted on 06/15/2002 8:05:28 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
the Jews don't worship the same God we do, simply because they don't accept Christ as the Son that of God.
If I may butt in here, let me say that Christianity says that Jesus, of Nazareth, is the SON of God, AND IS god!

There is the rub. Christ, the man, in the flesh, is God Almighty.


As prophecied so long ago..........

Isaiah 9:6-7
6. For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.

And on the testimony of others.........

John 20:24-29
 24.  Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came.
 25.  So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"   But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."
 26.  A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!"
 27.  Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
 28.  Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
 29.  Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

 John 10:30-33
 30.  I and the Father are one."
 31.  Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him,
 32.  but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"
 33.  "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

113 posted on 06/16/2002 6:28:37 AM PDT by Elsie
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To: ZULU
Absolutely correct, there is only one God, names don't matter. When a person prays to God, the only God hears that prayer.
115 posted on 06/16/2002 12:53:35 PM PDT by stuartcr
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To: ZULU
I am the last one to defend Islam, but by your definition of what constitutes the "Christian" God, you would therefore postulate that the Jews don't worship the same God we do, simply because they don't accept Christ as the Son that of God.

The Christian God and God of Judaism are one and the same, but jews also do not believe in the trinity, which means that they also are outside of the truth. However, the jews are different from muslims because God chose them as His people and thru them he revealed the Law and the Prophets, and thru them came His Son, Jesus Christ (himself a jew). However, those who reject Jesus Christ have no hope of salvation because there is then no provision for forgiveness of their sins. That being said, I believe God has a plan for the jewish people. In fact, Paul wrote in Romans that one day "all Isreal would be saved" meaning that one day the jews would come to know the Savior of the World. Do you know the Savior? The one who paid the penalty for your sins? Do you accept that you need a Savior because you have blown it?

YOUR statemnt is both absurd and religiously bigoted. Read some books about comparative theology. Allah, Yahweh and "God" are the same person whether or not you accept Christ as his son.

My statement is the truth. Sometimes the truth seems bigoted because truth by definition is very narrow. But I will state one more time that you are wrong. Allah is not hte same as Yahweh and anyone who says this is not familiar with the history of both religions. The Koran accounts of Abraham and other patriarchs directly conflict with the accoounts in the bible. One of the accounts has to be wrong. Obviously, the bible is right and the Koran is wrong as the bible preceded the Koran, it was written 1000-2000 years before the Koran. Muslims even deny that Jesus Christ died on the cross - in direct contradiction to the eyewitnesses who said he did. Which is more credible - the eyewitness or the one writing 700 years later?

130 posted on 06/17/2002 9:57:49 AM PDT by exmarine
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