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Ten Misconceptions About Islam
Trinity of Light ^ | FR Post 06-13-02 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 06/13/2002 3:17:42 PM PDT by vannrox

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To: vannrox
islam is the used car of religon...
There is the version "the car" that the salesman claims...
Then there is the version the poor schmuck who buys it gets ....
Two brands of islam...the sanitized anglo-sized version (one for the cameras)
And the one taught by the cabal insiders club...the real version...the one the shakers
and movers raise their apostles on...
And then I suspect there is even another version for the puppet masters themselves..
The version on the use of your own followers to do your dirty work...
41 posted on 06/13/2002 4:32:59 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: vannrox; CyberCowboy777
Do you call this justice or equality?

From the Hadith of Abu Dawud [6]. Book 38, Number 4348:

Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet was informed about it. He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.

He sat before the Prophet and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon the Prophet said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.

42 posted on 06/13/2002 4:33:11 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: vannrox
Oh sure. About #1 and #4 Sura 2:190-193 says to "slay them" (the unbelievers) Sura 9:5 says "slay the pagans wherever you find them" Sura 5:51 commands Muslims not to take Jews and Christians as friends. And #2, Sura 4:34 says "Men are the managers of the affairs of women" and rebellious women are to be beaten. Why bother with every "true conception?"
43 posted on 06/13/2002 4:35:57 PM PDT by jps098
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To: CyberCowboy777; ALL
Hadith Bukhari:

Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (pbuh) (Al-Maghaazi)

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 362:

Narrated Ibn Umar: Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again). He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa', the tribe of 'Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina.

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 447:

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:

The people of (Banu) Quraiza agreed to accept the verdict of Sad bin Mu'adh. So the Prophet sent for Sad, and the latter came (riding) a donkey and when he approached the Mosque, the Prophet said to the Ansar, "Get up for your chief or for the best among you." Then the Prophet said (to Sad)." These (i.e. Banu Quraiza) have agreed to accept your verdict." Sad said, "Kill their (men) warriors and take their offspring as captives, "On that the Prophet said, "You have judged according to Allah's Judgment," or said, "according to the King's judgment." Narrated Jabir Abdullah:

Allah's messenger said "Who is willing to kill Ka`b bin al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His apostle?" Thereupon Maslama got up saying, "O Allah's messenger! Would you like that I kill him?" The prophet said, "Yes". Maslama said, "Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Ka`b). The prophet said, "You may say it."

44 posted on 06/13/2002 4:38:16 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: vannrox
Mohammed was educated by private Jewish and Christian turors when he was a boy. His desire was to unite the Arab world in religious unity, as he saw how that unity benefited the Jews and Christians. His original intent was to create a sect of Jewdiasm, but the Jews flatly rejected his views as heresy.

He decided that the Arabs needed one god to worship, because they were worshipping about 100,00 different gods at the time. From the plethora of idols worshipped, he chose Allah, the moon-god.

The koran was not compiled by him, but by his followers. Whenever he would speak, a stenographer would record his speaches and the transcripts would be saved in a basket...the older speaches on the bottom. Later, it was decided to complie all of the transcripts into one text. Since the most recent writings were on top, they were recorded first, all the way to the oldest. Today, when reading the koran, the oldest of his sayings are at the back and the newest, at the front. You'll notice that the newest are the most vicious and restrictive, because as his following grew, so did his rejection and hence, we see his anger against those that don't hold his views.

He is as he was.

A heretic.

45 posted on 06/13/2002 4:41:20 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: Future Snake Eater
What a piece of propoganda crap.

The problem is, some amongst us fall for it all too easily!

46 posted on 06/13/2002 4:54:19 PM PDT by mikeIII
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To: vannrox
Oh yeah and in other news:
LOS ANGELES - A Muslim fundamentalist was sentenced to nearly five years in state prison for vandalizing religious statues at a Roman Catholic church and stealing hundreds of magazines from a mosque. Emad Ibrahim Saad, 35, of Los Angeles, was sentenced Tuesday to 56 months in prison for vandalism, theft and hate crimes. Saad fired several attorneys and insisted on representing himself at his trial. However, on the last day of the trial, he refused to leave his jail cell and show up for court. Prosecutors said Saad decapitated a Virgin Mary statue...

Islam - the religion of the hateful AND the stupid.

47 posted on 06/13/2002 5:00:17 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: knighthawk
Another version of Islamic history, from History of Palestine:

From the Accession of the Mahomedans to that of the Europeans.

In the year 4374* (614) there lived in Medina, in Arabia, Mahomed ibn Abdallah, descended from Keder, son of Ishmael (Gen. 25:13), who had taken possession of Arabia and the neighbouring countries. Mahomed had two secret counsellors, who assisted him in the construction of his new system of doctrines and belief; these were Allman Mam Ali, of Jewish descent, and Turchman, a Christian; hence it resulted that the Koran contains many rules bearing analogy to Jewish ideas, for they were derived from Mam Ali.

* It is not easy to give the precise year of the Chadjra (the flight of Mahomed), since all authorities are not agreed in this respect. In general, the year of the text is assumed. In a Hebrew work, out of which I have drawn largely, the year 4384 (621) is given. The Mahomedans reckon this year 5605 (1845) as the 1261st of the Chadjra. If we now calculate their years in general at 355 days, as they have no leap year, we shall have only about 1226 solar years, which would give us the year 4379 (619 of the Christian Era) as the year of the Chadjra.

Mahomed had an astrologer at his court called Bucheran, who was a very great enemy of the Jews, and urged the prophet constantly to persecute and exterminate them entirely, so that Mahomed at length listened to the proposition, since he had without this already a hatred towards them, because they had not aided him in his campaigns according to his expectation; wherefore the whole Jewish population under his rule, ran great danger of being entirely cut off. Rabbi Shallum, son of the then Resh Gelutha, in Babel, perceiving this dreadful predicament, went to Mahomed, and offering him his submission, friendship, and services, endeavoured to enter with him into a friendly compact. Mahomed accepted his proposition with pleasure, conceived a great affection for him, and took his daughter, a handsome young girl, for wife; he made him also a general in his army, and gave him the name of Abu Bachr al Chaliva al Zadik, literally: The father of the maiden, the descendant of the righteous; this means, that of all his wives, who were either widows or divorced women, this one was the only one who had never been married before, and then she was the granddaughter of the celebrated chief of the captivity; therefore, the descendant of the righteous. This occurrence induced Mahomed to give up his terrible intention to destroy the Jews in his country, and thus did Rabbi Shallum save his people.

Abu Bachr and Aliman now resolved among themselves to remove the dangerous enemy of the Jews, Bucheran. One evening Mahomed, Bucheran, Aliman, and Abu Bachr, were drinking together; the latter two soon saw that Mahomed and the astrologer were strongly intoxicated, and lay stretched out in a deep and profound sleep. Abu Bachr thereupon drew the sword of Mahomed from its scabbard, cut off therewith Bucharan's head, and put the bloody sword back into its receptacle, and both then lay themselves down quietly near Mahomed to sleep. When Mahomed awoke and saw his friend lying decapitated near him, he cried out in a fury: "This terrible deed has been done by one of us three in our drunkenness!" Abu Bachr thereupon said quite unconcernedly: "Let each one draw his sword, and he whose weapon is stained with blood, must needs be the murderer!" They all drew their swords, and that of Mahomed was completely dyed with fresh blood, which proved thus clearly to his satisfaction that he had murdered his friend. He was greatly grieved at this discovery; cursed and condemned the wine which was the cause of this murder, and swore that he never would drink any more, and that also no one should do so who wishes to enter heaven. This is the cause why wine is prohibited to the Mahomedans.

At a later period, Mahomed learned the whole transaction, and that his father-in-law was the perpetrator of the bloody deed; wherefore, he lost his favour, and he would not permit him to come before him. Abu Bachr went thereupon and conquered sixty places, which had not yet submitted to Mahomed, and presented them to him, through which means he became again reconciled to him, was received in favour, and remained thereafter at court.

Mahomed urged his conquests to the north and west; made war against Heraclius and his son Constantine, captured the country around Antiochia, Armenia, a part of Asia Minor (Anatolia), and Palestine. Jerusalem, however, continued in possession of the Greeks. Mahomed reigned 11 years, and died in 4385 (625); he was succeeded by his father-in-law, Abu Bachr, but he survived him but two years, when he also died.

In 4387 (627), another father-in-law, Omar ibn Kataf, ascended the throne. In the tenth year of his reign (4397) he appeared before Jerusalem with a large army. He besieged it, and after producing great distress thereby in the city, it surrendered to his arms. He then made a treaty with the Greek inhabitants of the city, that they should pay him a ransom for their lives, and send an annual tribute. He commanded to rebuild the temple, and appropriated several pieces of ground, the proceeds of which were destined to defray the expenses and keep it in repair, which is continued to be done to this day. He built, accordingly, the great Mosque al Sachara, of which I have spoken above. He also conquered the whole country around Damascus and Ispahan, which is a part of Persia.

Egypt was taken by his general Omar ibn Aleaz, as also the city of Alexandria, where he burnt the celebrated library, through which learned posterity suffered an irreparable loss. This conquest of Egypt put an end to the government of the Mameluks, and it came under the rule of the Califs, and so it remained till the country was conquered by the Tartars in 4502 (742). In 4400 (640), Omar built the present al Mazr and called it Al Kairo, which means, "care, pains, sorrow;" since this building cost him much trouble, care, and labour. In the town of Pastat, the ancient Zoar (for which see the Appendix), he prohibited and prevented a terrible ancient custom, which was prevalent among the Greeks of that place. They used, on the day when the Nile begins to rise, to take a handsome young woman, to dress her in the most costly and brilliant attire, to lead her to the river under accompaniment of music and dancing, and then to throw her into the water; since, according to their opinion, the Nile would, in reward for this beautiful sacrifice, rise higher and higher, and scatter its rich blessings over the land. Omar reigned 15 years.

48 posted on 06/13/2002 5:03:57 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: vannrox
this thread should be called "the big thread of islamic lies"
49 posted on 06/13/2002 5:07:53 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: vannrox
words are cheap. this and a quarter will buy you a cup of spit.

judge the tree by the fruit it bears.

what are the wonderful benefits this nonsense religion has bestowed, and where are their great works?

oh yeah, treat women like dogs, kill innocents in Gods name, lust for death.

as with all mystics, the standard of value is not man's LIFE, but man's DEATH. what is valued is what is promised beyond the grave. and they damn sure wouldnt want the acts they do to others done to themselves.

think about it.

51 posted on 06/13/2002 5:17:02 PM PDT by galt-jw
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To: vannrox
Silly me. I've been guilty of so many of these very misconceptions! But now I realize that islam is a religion of peace and tolerance.

So, I'm sure the Saudi government would be glad to let me set up a little mail order business to their citizens. I'm thinking of getting some nice printing done...little pithy sayings about ol' 'hammed that I've come up with...and selling them for a few bucks a whack. All in a spirit of fun, of course. A touch of parody could lighten up matters wonderfully.

And I'll bet the folks over there would like some nice picture calendars - say, of the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders for the males, and of the Chippendales for their wives and daughters.

What an exciting business opportunity! But, somehow, I think I shouldn't make such an offer in person....

52 posted on 06/13/2002 5:20:17 PM PDT by neutrino
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To: vannrox
Nation of Islam is another name for Black Nationalist, which is an anti-white, anti-American, racist organization who started "K'wanzaa".
53 posted on 06/13/2002 5:22:55 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: vannrox
I stopped reading this bunch of BRAVO SIERRA at the point where it is stated that isloonics are peacefull. Is that why the festering kooks strap bombs on thier children, and send them out to commit mass homicide on innocents!!!! You make the call.
54 posted on 06/13/2002 5:27:55 PM PDT by davetex
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To: vannrox
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IMHO this is as one-sidedly for Islam as what your detractors post is one-sidedly against Islam.

55 posted on 06/13/2002 5:33:46 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: vannrox
Whoever wrote this was an idiot. Just how can this guy be 0 for 10 when talking about misconceptions.

Oh wait ... ya think this is propaganda ?

56 posted on 06/13/2002 5:39:42 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: neutrino




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Of the Millions of Muslims that live in this country, and the Millions of Muslims who live outside our country, I find it hard to believe that everyone of them are so intolerant of Christians. If this were true then it would indicate that the Bosian Conflict is but a small sample of what the World can expect to experience.


That frightens me.


As it indicates that the Crusades and the environment that resulted in the Dark Ages is about to go, once again, into full bloom. I am only hope that this is not the case.


We of all races and religions must really understand the forces at work here and do our best to shut down the influences that are attempting to destroy Civilization and Society as we have come to understand them.






57 posted on 06/13/2002 5:42:45 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: vannrox
Barf alert?
58 posted on 06/13/2002 5:49:54 PM PDT by weikel
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To: PianoMan
Yeah its all the Jews fault( sarcasm).
59 posted on 06/13/2002 5:50:23 PM PDT by weikel
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To: AmericaUnited
Technically, it's called cognitive dissonance.
60 posted on 06/13/2002 6:03:27 PM PDT by Teacher317
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