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To: Reagan Man
I've already supplied you with a basic outline for ideas to the solve problems facing America.

Despite being asked, you provided no examples of what you consider to be problems. All you've done is accuse me of providing no solutions. Since you will not identify a problem I cannot offer a solution.

My approach of politics and getting candidates elected and building a governing majority, does work.

I am also trying to get candidates elected. Getting a governing majority is not neccessary. It is possible to win an election with less than 50% of the votes.

You keep beating around the bush by listing certain aspects of the government that you would cut or abolish.

You asked the question, "What solutions do you have for the problems facing America..." You can't get more general than that.

Excessive taxation on working Americans...

Solution: repeal taxes. Despite controlling both chambers of Congress and the WH for most of 2001, Republicans did not repeal the death or capital-gains taxes when they had the opportunity.

Massive political gridlock in Wash-DC that has caused legislative stalemate and forces a Republican president to battle an obstructionist liberal Democratic opposition...

Gridlock is a good thing. It keeps government from getting bigger.

The president has veto power but he won't use it. Why should he veto big-government legislation, and be called an obstructionist, when he can sign it and take credit for its implementation?

Your answers and those of your fellow libertarians and other third party types, has been to say you won't support conservative Republicans candidates, to constantly bitch about Bush and Republicans in general and say everything is unconstitutional.

GWB and Congressional Republicans have done NOTHING to reduce government.

Which Republican candidates are conservative that Libertarians refuse to support?

Saying you're going to support and vote for some libertarian...candidate, isn't a solution.

Saying you're going to support and vote for some Republican isn't a solution either.

Saying you're going to educate people, is a worthy objective, but doesn't get the job done either.

Educating people is the only way to get the job done. If people believe that the only choices available are government-program-A and government-program-B, and are unaware that no government program is also an option, then government will continue getting bigger.

I'll repeat one hint, politics is a slow process.

The world is what we make of it. If Republicans wanted to make a difference in the federal government they would have done it already.

Give some solutions.

Give some problems.

143 posted on 06/17/2002 2:52:22 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Alan Chapman
Just what are you afraid of?

I specifically asked you not to decontructed what I said, but rather to give examples of solutions to the problems facing America today. You responded to neither request. Instead, you went into a tit for tat mode and proceeded to deconsruct what I said, like a twelve year old. You then said, I've supplied no problems, so how can you supply solutions. Look, you have no trouble reading us conservative Republican Bush supporters, the riot act, on a daily basis. Now, all of a sudden your tongue tied and can't speak a word. It's not my responsibility to list the problems that you perceive to exist. As for solutions, that's what I want from YOU. Not anymore BS!

However, I did offer up a few problems from my persepctive. Like excessive taxation, which is the direct cause of excessive government spending. To me these are the two most significant problems that exist in Wash-DC today. Your answer was, "Solution: repeal taxes". That was it. You don't offer up any plan for repealing taxes, especially when you're up against the loyal opposition forces, special interest groups and the liberal media.

I also mentioned the massive political gridlock that exists inside the "Beltway" today. Your answer was "Gridlock is a good thing. It keeps government from getting bigger". That was it. While gridlock may be a good thing in controlling the growth of government, it does nothing to reduce government spending. And besides, since when do libertarians support gridlock?

You did mention one meaningful solution. That would be for President Bush to use the veto pen and strike down legislation. Of course you also didn't mention, that unless it's a pocket veto, there is always a chance Congress will overrule him. Remember the RINOS! Anymore solutions, or is that the extent of your problem solving?

>>>Saying you're going to support and vote for some Republican isn't a solution either.

Sure it's a solution. But I didn't say anything about Republicans or RINOS. I said we need to elect more conservative Republicans to office. Like Jim Robinson said:
The only chance we have of turning this thing around is to regain control of the Senate. Keep voting out the Democrats, regain contriol, and then we can worry about the RINOs.
565 posted on 6/5/02 9:06 PM Mountain by Jim Robinson
LINK to Jim Robinson's Remarks

Again, just what are you afraid of? You still show a deep lack of understanding American politics and the slow nature of the overall political process. You've proven to me, you have no solutions to the problems facing America today. You present a very limited and shortsighted view of the world. Typical libertarian tunnel vision.

If you ever come up with real solutions, look me up. Until then, tap dance around the issues qall you want.

146 posted on 06/17/2002 5:35:25 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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