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To: Alan Chapman
Just what are you afraid of?

I specifically asked you not to decontructed what I said, but rather to give examples of solutions to the problems facing America today. You responded to neither request. Instead, you went into a tit for tat mode and proceeded to deconsruct what I said, like a twelve year old. You then said, I've supplied no problems, so how can you supply solutions. Look, you have no trouble reading us conservative Republican Bush supporters, the riot act, on a daily basis. Now, all of a sudden your tongue tied and can't speak a word. It's not my responsibility to list the problems that you perceive to exist. As for solutions, that's what I want from YOU. Not anymore BS!

However, I did offer up a few problems from my persepctive. Like excessive taxation, which is the direct cause of excessive government spending. To me these are the two most significant problems that exist in Wash-DC today. Your answer was, "Solution: repeal taxes". That was it. You don't offer up any plan for repealing taxes, especially when you're up against the loyal opposition forces, special interest groups and the liberal media.

I also mentioned the massive political gridlock that exists inside the "Beltway" today. Your answer was "Gridlock is a good thing. It keeps government from getting bigger". That was it. While gridlock may be a good thing in controlling the growth of government, it does nothing to reduce government spending. And besides, since when do libertarians support gridlock?

You did mention one meaningful solution. That would be for President Bush to use the veto pen and strike down legislation. Of course you also didn't mention, that unless it's a pocket veto, there is always a chance Congress will overrule him. Remember the RINOS! Anymore solutions, or is that the extent of your problem solving?

>>>Saying you're going to support and vote for some Republican isn't a solution either.

Sure it's a solution. But I didn't say anything about Republicans or RINOS. I said we need to elect more conservative Republicans to office. Like Jim Robinson said:
The only chance we have of turning this thing around is to regain control of the Senate. Keep voting out the Democrats, regain contriol, and then we can worry about the RINOs.
565 posted on 6/5/02 9:06 PM Mountain by Jim Robinson
LINK to Jim Robinson's Remarks

Again, just what are you afraid of? You still show a deep lack of understanding American politics and the slow nature of the overall political process. You've proven to me, you have no solutions to the problems facing America today. You present a very limited and shortsighted view of the world. Typical libertarian tunnel vision.

If you ever come up with real solutions, look me up. Until then, tap dance around the issues qall you want.

146 posted on 06/17/2002 5:35:25 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
I specifically asked you not to decontructed what I said, but rather to give examples of solutions to the problems facing America today.

Solve this math problem for me to the right of the arrow -----> _________

Don't ask me what the problem is. Just give me the solution.

In order for me to give you solutions to problems facing America you need to tell me what you perceive to be the problems.

It's not my responsibility to list the problems that you perceive to exist. As for solutions, that's what I want from YOU.

If you want me to give you solutions then you need to tell me what the problems are.

You don't offer up any plan for repealing taxes, especially when you're up against the loyal opposition forces, special interest groups and the liberal media.

As I said previously, the WH and both chambers of Congress were controlled by Republicans for most of 2001. Why didn't they take the opportunity to repeal any taxes? Why not repeal some gun-control?

My plan for repealing taxes entails supporting and voting for people who will repeal taxes.

While gridlock may be a good thing in controlling the growth of government, it does nothing to reduce government spending.

If the president wanted to reduce government he could exercise his veto power until Congress cut spending. Sure, they might override his vetos. But, at least the president wouldn't be a rubber stamp and every piece of legislation would be a fight.

The truth of the matter is that GWB has no intention of reducing government and never did. His primary concern at the moment is to please as many people as possible before the next election by promising goodies from the public treasury.

...since when do libertarians support gridlock?

What you call gridlock I call separation of powers.

...you also didn't mention, that unless it's a pocket veto, there is always a chance Congress will overrule him.

There is no limit to the number of times the president can exercise his veto. He could veto legislation until Congress either acquiesces or overrides it. The line-item veto gimmick keeps people spinning in cul-de-sacs to divert them from addressing the real problem.

You still show a deep lack of understanding American politics and the slow nature of the overall political process. You present a very limited and shortsighted view of the world. Typical libertarian tunnel vision.

None of that is an argument.

You've proven to me, you have no solutions to the problems facing America today.

You have yet to tell me what you perceive the problems to be.

147 posted on 06/17/2002 6:21:47 PM PDT by Alan Chapman
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