Posted on 06/12/2002 11:57:24 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:38:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
VICTORVILLE, Calif. (AP) - A man described by a judge as "an evil monster" was sentenced to 25 years in prison for using a baseball bat, metal pipe and golf club to attack a 12-year-old Halloween trick-or-treater on his doorstep.
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A 50% answer.
Ditto
Just because you say so? A right requires no permission. Swimming in a public pool is not a right since it requires prior permission and can be revoked. The mere fact that public pools are closed in winter months is an indication that swimming in them is a privilege granted by the municipality that built the pool.
Oh stop running off at the mouth TP.
The states have a right to do as they please (within the framework) It's obvious to everyone but you.
I replied:
Read the 14th, [for the framework] -- and watch your own mouth. - 387 tpaine
Laughably wrong.
"But it is universally understood, it is a part of the history of the day, that the great revolution which established the constitution of the United States, was not effected without immense opposition. Serious fears were extensively entertained that those powers which the patriot statesmen, who then watched over the interests of our country, deemed essential to union, and to the attainment of those invaluable objects for which union was sought, might be exercised in a manner dangerous to liberty. In almost every convention by which the constitution was adopted, amendments to guard against the abuse of power were recommended. These amendments demanded security against the apprehended encroachments of the general government--not against those of the local governments." --United States Supreme Court, Barron v. Mayor & City Council of Baltimore, 32 U.S. 243 (1833)
That isn't the measure. That's just the process which takes place after the determination is made. But, you knew that. I asked by what measure does one go about determining which activities should be prohibited?
...where do you contend that the right to swim in a public pool comes from?
I contend that no such right exists.
I think the states can do whatever they are not prohibited from doing.. You seem to have some other view.
That, simply is my point.
Yes, the supreme court was laughably wrong as are you. See US v Miller 1939 or Nunn v State, 1847.
No, because the public has decided to establish such rights.
You see, Demidog, the public owns its public pools and its members enjoy rights attendant to that ownership.
Nuff Said
The public cannot establish rights.
Took you long enough. Libertarians typically refuse to recognize historically well established rights that don't easily fit into the theology of their cult.
BTW, do you drive on the public roads?
Correct. And the bill of rights, since it reserves power to the people, also prohibits states from infringing on those rights reserved by the people.
Hey, I don't see a problem here with a statewide WOD. Nationally, SURE. I agree completely.
On the state level, no.. and that makes you wrong.
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