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Remove Confederate flag? Panhandle city must decide
Orlando Slantnel ^ | 12 June 2002 | AP

Posted on 06/12/2002 7:48:50 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

CRESTVIEW -- The NAACP wants the Confederate battle flag removed from a memorial on city property that honors Florida's last Civil War veteran, who died in 1957.

Sabu Williams, local chapter president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, on Monday likened the flag to the Berlin Wall, contending it represents a wall of terror, hatred, murder, bigotry and shame.

"The heritage of the Confederate battle flag is that it was meant to divide," Williams told the City Council. "Today, we should be looking at things that bind us, not divide us."

The council delayed a decision until June 24 after listening to Williams and some of about 70 other residents who packed its chambers. Each side was given 10 minutes.

Martin Barker, representing the Florida Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, said the flag is a sign of history, not hate. "History is a fact," Barker said. "We can't change it, but we can learn from it. If we bury it, we will deprive our children and our grandchildren of that fact."

The memorial was put up along State Road 85, one of Crestview's main thoroughfares, a year after William "Uncle Bill" Lundy died in this Panhandle city. An earlier effort to remove the flag failed in 1996.

Williams said he had no issue with the memorial, just the flag.

One of Lundy's grandsons, Hayden Lundy, argued to keep the flag, saying his grandfather never hated anyone. "Uncle Bill Lundy was a loving man," he said.

The NAACP has organized protests and economic boycotts in other places where it has fought to bring down the Confederate battle flag.

"We will do what we have to do," Williams said. "We will not stop until we have succeeded in removing that flag."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: confederateflag; crestview; dixielist; florida; heritage; honor; naacpcriminals
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To: Lanman
I live in Crestview, and intend to attend the meeting. This has not received very much local attention.

I understand the Panhandle is basically right wing voters?
I remember the 2000 elections were called before the polls closed there because of the split time line.
Won't this outrage the right enough to actually increase their right wing voters for Jeb?

21 posted on 06/12/2002 8:37:19 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: stainlessbanner
I liked the vote in Mississippi. Seems that 40% of the blacks there had plenty more sense than most of the white yuppies in the north Jackson voting area.

The NAACP is just vainly trying to justify it's existence and makes noise. I hope Crestview nuts up.

22 posted on 06/12/2002 8:45:13 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: stainlessbanner
Next thing you know, the NAACP will be protesting the Stars and Stripes because it contains white.
23 posted on 06/12/2002 8:47:57 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: stainlessbanner
Sabu Williams, local chapter president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People ... "Today, we should be looking at things that bind us, not divide us."

I wonder if they've offered their position on the subject of Reparations.

24 posted on 06/12/2002 8:49:57 AM PDT by Daffy
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To: concerned about politics
Won't this outrage the right enough to actually increase their right wing voters for Jeb?

But Jeb removed the Confederate flag from the capitol grounds here in Tallahassee and put it in a museum.

25 posted on 06/12/2002 8:51:40 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: concerned about politics
I understand the Panhandle is basically right wing voters?

That is true if you exclude Pensacola. BTW, Janet Reno is in Crestview today.

26 posted on 06/12/2002 8:54:11 AM PDT by Lanman
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To: Non-Sequitur
Oh for God's sake. It makes you wonder what they will blame all their troubles on once the last flag has been removed?

Well, at the rate of one or two flags per election year, that should take some time.

27 posted on 06/12/2002 8:55:18 AM PDT by Palmetto
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To: stainlessbanner
The same thing is happening in South Carolina, where the NAACP is boycotting the entire state because of one flag at a Confederate Soldiers Monument. Never give in, or the monument will be the next target.
28 posted on 06/12/2002 9:33:26 AM PDT by aomagrat
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To: stainlessbanner
I called Mayor George Whitehurst, and had a nice conversation with the gentleman. Kudos to him and those that wish to honor their ancestors, and those that served.
29 posted on 06/12/2002 10:07:31 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
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30 posted on 06/12/2002 11:03:51 AM PDT by nathanbedford
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31 posted on 06/12/2002 11:04:13 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: concerned about politics
Yeh, and a rainbow flag will go up to take it's place. Only in America.

Florida's last civil war veteran was GAY??

WHO knew?

32 posted on 06/12/2002 11:07:56 AM PDT by tet68
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To: nathanbedford
Thank you kind sir. ;o)
33 posted on 06/12/2002 11:36:08 AM PDT by 4CJ
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To: 4ConservativeJustices; nathanbedford
I agree. Thank you for that link

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34 posted on 06/12/2002 12:12:03 PM PDT by billbears
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To: stainlessbanner
Will be spending the night in Crestview on the 21st...will make a point of going by to check it out!
35 posted on 06/12/2002 3:44:33 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: FreeTally
They pulled that stuff in p'cola about 2 years ago. Now, instead of the battle flag, they fly the Confederate national flag. For some reason the NAACP doesn't care about the one that flew over the entire Confederacy.
36 posted on 06/12/2002 4:28:17 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: TexConfederate1861
You can still find the Lee monmument in Pensacola.
37 posted on 06/12/2002 4:29:21 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: concerned about politics
I understand the Panhandle is basically right wing voters?

Actually, we have the nation's most conservative district.

I remember the 2000 elections were called before the polls closed there because of the split time line.

wasn't as big of a deal as some made it out to be. Those that intended to vote had already done so and those that didn't used it as an excuse.

Won't this outrage the right enough to actually increase their right wing voters for Jeb?

We don't get much attention from the State out here. Not much money, either. Unless the governor does something EXTREMELY bright or stupid, he's pretty much a non-entity here. We get more exicted about the 4 indicted county commissioners and the beach's pink flag warninigs on Memorial day.

38 posted on 06/12/2002 4:36:16 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
For some reason the NAACP doesn't care about the one that flew over the entire Confederacy.

LOL!! Probably haven't bothered to study the actual history and don't realize it. You know you can't let a little thing like historical fact get in the way when you've got an agenda.

I fly the Stainless Banner and people ask me all the time why I don't fly the Battle Flag. They don't realize there were national flags. Public education will do that to you I guess.

39 posted on 06/12/2002 6:42:10 PM PDT by billbears
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To: billbears
I fly the Stainless Banner

I'm partial to that one, too! : )

40 posted on 06/12/2002 8:26:30 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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