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NIGHTLINE Tonight: The Big Picture (Dallas Paper to Break BIG Story on Catholic Scandal!)
ABCNEWS | June 11, 2002 | Leroy Sievers

Posted on 06/11/2002 1:21:39 PM PDT by Timesink

Subject: NIGHTLINE: The Big Picture

TONIGHT'S SUBJECT: For months now, we've been reporting on the scandal rocking the Catholic Church. But for the most part, we talk about one case here, another there. But just how widespread is the problem? Tonight we'll have the results of an investigation done by our colleagues at the Dallas Morning News. The numbers are actually pretty shocking.

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I'm sitting here, having a little trouble getting started. We have reported on this scandal several times so far. For the most part, the stories are fairly similar, the anguish of the victims, and their anger, and the response by the Church. But it is sort of like profiling each tree, one at a time, and not looking at the forest, to use an old metaphor. Just how widespread is this problem? If it were just one person here, and maybe another there, it might be easier to understand. But there has always been a feeling that this is a systemic problem, that underlying the individual stories that have come into the public eye, and those that have not, is some sort of widespread problem.

Some say the issue is celibacy. Others that the priesthood attracts those disposed towards children. Still others argue that the issue is homosexuality in the priesthood. And there are many other explanations. And they may all be partly true, and party false. But tonight we will address just how widespread this problem is. This week, the bishops are meeting in Dallas to debate a proposed policy to deal with priests who are accused of, or proven to be guilty of molestation. Many of the victims say the policy doesn't go far enough, that it is too lenient. But with the bishops and others beginning to arrive in Dallas today, our friends at the Dallas Morning News came to us with the results of an investigation they conducted. Their story will be in the paper tomorrow, and on their Web site tonight. They tried to track down every credible allegation. And the numbers they found are staggering.

Roughly two-thirds of the bishops have either been accused themselves, actually a relatively small number, or more commonly, are accused of covering up the actions of one of their priests. We'll be reporting on the details of what the Morning News found tonight, but clearly the numbers indicate that the problem is more than just the crimes of isolated individuals. So we'll have a report from ABC News correspondent Bill Blakemore from Dallas on the Morning News investigation, and a preview of what will happen later in the week. Ted will interview the bishop who headed the committee that wrote the proposed policy. But I think tonight's broadcast will make it clear that this is much more than a couple of isolated cases being given too much publicity. Something has gone terribly wrong.

Tuesday, June 11, 2002

Leroy Sievers and the Nightline Staff
Nightline Offices
Washington, D.C.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: abc; abcnews; catholicchurch; catholiclist; catholics; churchscandal; nightline
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To: RobbyS
"Are gays become so powerfully placed that the bishops are frightened of them?"

The way "Archbishop" Flynn looked when he punted Koppel's question about the role of homosexuality in the scandals, one is forced to conclude that the poor bishop is either mentally retarded, psychotic, suffering from a head injury, on an overdose of LSD, afraid of the political pressure of homos, or a homo himself.

141 posted on 06/11/2002 9:30:19 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: LarryLied
The Bishops are beyond redemption.

Sadly, you are right. There are very few trustworthy, righteous men in the hierarchy. I can't believe I am actually saying that.

I guess this stuff is not new, only the reasons change.

When the Council of Nicaea was called in 325, even though he was only still only a deacon, his Bishop chose Athanasius to accompany him as a periti. There he amazed and impressed the Council Fathers with his thorough knowledge of the Faith and his masterful apologetics approach of defending the Faith, especially against the Arian heresy. Though Arianism was soundly condemned at Nicaea, it did not go away. Rather it spread further and, were it not for men like Athanasius, who knows what further damage might have been done. It was Athanasius himself who illustrated the great damage done when he said, "The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops." He was, of course, referring to those bishops - the vast majority - who had been lured away from the True Church in following the false teachings of Arius. If that many bishops were in hell, how many who followed them down the wide path to perdition also were? They say for every priest who loses his soul, 1000 souls are lost; for every bishop who loses his eternal soul, 10,000 souls are denied the Heavenly portals.

142 posted on 06/11/2002 9:30:49 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: RobbyS
You are so lucky that you'll get to hear Michael Rose speak. Maryz posted a radio interview he did here in Boston - he sounds very well versed in the problems of homosexuality in the Church. I wish the Bishops would attend that function and not waste their time like it appears they will be doing on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

I think it is a combo of problems. I think some of the Bishops are gay, most are guilty of some kind of cover-up and all are friends with those guilty of one or the other sins listed above. They'd rather compromise the Church than come clean and get rid of their sinning "friends." It is indeed a network. And anyone who doesn't come forth and be honest is guilty.

143 posted on 06/11/2002 9:46:00 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
Saw that,agree.Time to be in or out and do not send losers to give us baby food because you have not seen the grown up church in action.
144 posted on 06/11/2002 9:46:22 PM PDT by fatima
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To: a history buff
I have the link by freep mail only and only read one book as I did not know then he walk out on the Pope,never read another thing he wrote,death has no victories.
145 posted on 06/11/2002 9:53:15 PM PDT by fatima
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
He was way wrong about the 3rd secrt of Fatima in known interviews.He said he knew and gave us,big time wrong hints
146 posted on 06/11/2002 9:59:55 PM PDT by fatima
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To: american colleen
Odd you should post that about your church stamping out Arianism. My church traces its roots to Arius :-)

This time, don't let any of them get away. Unitarians have done a lot of good but, considering where they are now, it would have been better had none escaped in the 4th century.

147 posted on 06/11/2002 10:01:41 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Timesink
Say a Rosary a day this week and through the Conference for the Bishops
148 posted on 06/11/2002 10:01:42 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: fatima
Malachi Martin, you mean? Not up on what he claimed to know about this. I take it you consider what was released as the whole thing despite discrepancies with prior statements by Sr. Lucy and others familiar with it? A strange tale.
149 posted on 06/11/2002 10:02:37 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: DallasMike
About Peter:
I know the Bible talks about Peter's mother-in-law, but I am not familiar with the verse and the timing in his life.
150 posted on 06/11/2002 10:04:17 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: american colleen
Good summary.
151 posted on 06/11/2002 10:04:42 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: LarryLied; Tacis
The church will emerge from this purged and stronger than ever. And that is good for everyone who loves liberty.

Thanks, LL!

The Catholic Church is about God, a loving and forgiving God; what about your church, Tacis?

152 posted on 06/11/2002 10:09:56 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: fatima
One of the "discredited" sources on the Third Secret claimed it dealt with the following: a "warning that the Catholic Church will undergo a catastrophic loss of faith and discipline beginning around 1960 - the "great apostasy" predicted in Scripture as a harbinger of the end times."

Maybe that wasn't in the released text, but it's a fairly accurate description of what we have been watching. What happened to the part Sr. Lucy had talked about "the dogma of the faith" being preserved in Portugal? That seems to have disappeared rather curiously....

153 posted on 06/11/2002 10:10:59 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: fatima
church,sorry for the caps,lead me to the non catholic's posts,oh I forgot they do not have any,they are all here with the catholic's.We pray together and thank you for your bumps.
154 posted on 06/11/2002 10:12:39 PM PDT by fatima
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER; rwfromkansas
By the way, tell us all where one can find "Scripture alone" in Scripture?

Correct you are becuase Luther was the one who added the word 'alone'.

155 posted on 06/11/2002 10:14:17 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: foreshadowed at waco
they were probably homosexual males born into Catholic families in the 1940's and 1950's who were sent into the priesthood by their families to avoid the scandal of being homosexual

Interesting theory. You just may have something there. Or maybe those males chose that life on their own. That is my thought about my brother, may he rest in peace.

156 posted on 06/11/2002 10:17:06 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Virginia-American
A Catholic friend told me that the Church is rotating priests - they can't be in a parish more than eight years.

In the Portland Archdiocese the term is ten years.

157 posted on 06/11/2002 10:27:03 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: wontbackdown
My husband has a friend who left the Catholic seminary 30 years ago because of the rampant and blatant homosexuality he witnessed there. When he complained about it, he was treated like a troublemaker! He finally realized that straight men were unwelcome there so he left.

This is so sad.

158 posted on 06/11/2002 10:33:55 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
HMBA,please post your source,never read this anywhere but you have dear soul,from where.
159 posted on 06/11/2002 10:34:44 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Torie
Maybe to increase the number of priests, they should have gay and straight seminaries.

How about all straight?

160 posted on 06/11/2002 10:34:46 PM PDT by Salvation
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