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1 posted on 06/11/2002 9:55:54 AM PDT by reader25
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Many on a previous thread considered they were confused with chickenpox. Has any professional spoken up on the Dawn article's conjectures?
2 posted on 06/11/2002 10:03:06 AM PDT by flamefront
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Highly unlikely this has occured as this would be a story on par with 9-11. Every news organization in the world would be all over this. Remember, smallpox has been eradicated.
3 posted on 06/11/2002 10:03:30 AM PDT by NYRepublican
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To: reader25
It's probably measles. Lots of info on these two threads:

SWABI: Smallpox epidemic spreading in Swabi

Smallpox Epidemic Rapidly Spreading In Pakistan Province

4 posted on 06/11/2002 10:03:38 AM PDT by Dixie Mom
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To: reader25
I wonder if Padilla tipped over a beaker before he left Pakistan? Hmmmm.
5 posted on 06/11/2002 10:03:56 AM PDT by smith288
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How exactly does a disease that has been eradicated form the planet suddenly show up in a country known to be home to many terrorists? This isn't the first thing I've seen about this... How has this not made national news yet... I just hope no one infected with it has hopped on a plain headed for the US.
6 posted on 06/11/2002 10:04:57 AM PDT by Nouge
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There were a few stories in "Dawn" about this, but this is the first I've heard of the incident being reported in a Packastani paper. I haven't seen anything on this outside of the region, however. Are there any doctors in the house that have seen anything from the CDC/NIH/WHO/USAMRIID on this?
8 posted on 06/11/2002 10:08:17 AM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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This can't be true. The World Health Organization has assured the world that they have erradicated smallpox through mandatory vaccines. [This in spite of the fact that not even 10% of the worlds population has been vaccinated].
10 posted on 06/11/2002 10:09:50 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: reader25
Ok, this is probably not smallpox. Fine.

But... this does give some insight into what would happen if a real smallpox outbreak occured.

Read all the stories about this. What I see over and over and over is authorities saying "yeah, I heard something about it somewhere. yeah, I guess we should look into it. Gee, but you know, it's probably nothing. Probaby just one of the other "poxes" that are around"

Which, again, is probably true. But what "if" there really were a terrorist screw up (an outbreak near where the terrorist are working on the weapon). Wouldn't it look just like this? Do we have to wait for WHO and the CDC to go an entire week or more while they simply rely on the fact that it is so improbable that it is smallpox?

The real story here is not the incorrect report of smallpox (if it is incorrect). The real story here is that you can depend on 1-2 week delay before any serious organiztion will look into a true smallpox outbreak. And that 1-2 week delay will doom us all.

11 posted on 06/11/2002 10:10:44 AM PDT by TheLooseThread
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Actually it's suprising that not a single agency has taken the time to confirm or deny the fact that someone in Pakistan is claiming a smallpox outbreak.

That in and of itself is rather disturbing.

13 posted on 06/11/2002 10:11:58 AM PDT by Centurion2000
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"Routine vaccination against smallpox ceased in the United States in 1972, and experts estimate that most or all of the population is vulnerable to infection with the virus, which is highly contagious and carries a 30 percent mortality rate. Although the remaining known stocks of smallpox virus are kept in two high-security laboratories in the United States and Russia, many experts fear that terrorists might gain access to samples of the virus." (From Washington Post article)

Other news:

U.S.and Canada sign smallpox vaccine agreement

17 posted on 06/11/2002 10:17:51 AM PDT by Gophack
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This is either a propagandistic hoax or chicken pox. Or both.
18 posted on 06/11/2002 10:35:19 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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These stories are spreading faster than Mrs. Fields cookie recipe and Internet Guy on the WTC. For those that believe everything you see and hear on the internet. Look for things that are missing in these pox articles: NUMBERS of victims.

Here are two examples of more believable stories:
1. "At least 156 people have died of Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever during an outbreak that began in Uganda in September 2000."

2. "India warns of malaria epidemic, 73 dead."

27 posted on 06/11/2002 11:51:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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Dammit Jamal! I said be careful with that test tube! Jamal? Jamal!!!
29 posted on 06/11/2002 12:18:34 PM PDT by PsyOp
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this thread has some of the worst spelling i have ever seen.

a pox on all of you.

not that i care.

39 posted on 06/11/2002 3:53:32 PM PDT by wildwood
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A message from Jim Robinson regarding the fundraiser!
42 posted on 06/11/2002 5:02:50 PM PDT by WIMom
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POETIC JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!
62 posted on 06/11/2002 10:58:38 PM PDT by Terridan
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ooops!!! Pakistan - Outbreak POETIC JUSTICE
63 posted on 06/11/2002 11:00:37 PM PDT by Terridan
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Yesterday I sent an email to the CDC. Here is my message:

Dear Sirs:

A Pakistani newspaper called "Pakistani Dawn" has reported on its internet site (http://www.dawn.com/2002/06/09/local23.htm)that an outbreak of small pox has occured in Pakistan's Swabi province. Now the webzine World Net Daily (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27912) has picked up this story and is publishing it. There are several articles about it on Free Republic's web site (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/698277/posts).

My thinking is that this is not true. If it is not an outright hoax, then it is misinformation.

Could somebody there let me know they are aware of these reports and assure us they are false? I would then relay this information back to all the respective web administrators. I'm sending this to you as part of my job is reviewing web information and teaching students how to asertain the varacity of web information. Lately this story has been a very hot topic.

Regards,

Alas Babylon!

They sent back a reply today, as follows:

Your inquiry is being answered by The CDC Public Response Service.

On international public health emergencies involving a country, normally CDC does not act until a request has been made by the Minister of Health for that country. CDC has not been contacted by the Minister of Health for Pakistan.

CDC has not been notified about a smallpox outbreak in Pakistan. The last naturally acquired case of smallpox occurred in 1977. In the United States, routine vaccination against smallpox ended in 1972. At this time, we have no information that suggests an imminent smallpox threat in Pakistan. There are a number of poxes that are sometimes mistakenly diagnosed as smallpox.

This rumor is being investigated by the World Health Organization. A smallpox outbreak has NOT been confirmed. There are a number of diseases that can be misdiagnosed as smallpox.

nk you for contacting the CDC. We hope this has been helpful. If you have any additional questions about bioterrorism, please call the CDC Public Response Service at 1-888-246-2675 or visit the CDC Bioterrorism web site at: www.bt.cdc.gov . Please feel free to reply with any additional questions to: cdcresponse@ashastd.org.

Desn't sound to me they are taking it seriously. Maybe they know it's a rumor?

80 posted on 06/12/2002 10:45:01 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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