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To: Reagan Man, PhiKapMom
they can't seem to talk about things rationally

I'm willing to discuss this rationally.

Let us start by either of you telling me if the expectation that our leaders and those in political parties should be accountable for the crimes they commit is something we will have to sacrifice in this "War on Terror"? That seems to be the logic pushed by those who advocate ignoring the many crimes that Clinton and his democRAT friends committed the last nine years.

So, tell me, is this the case? During this "War On Terror" will leaders and those in political parties be above the law? Can we expect Bush and the GOP to do what ever is necessary to stay in power and win this war? Afterall, Bush supporters have also been telling us this war would be lost if the DNC were now in power. Do you think the DNC can be trusted 6 years from now to take the reigns of government? They might mess up the war and we'd all die! Perhaps the GOP should just make sure that doesn't happen by ignoring the election laws for a while. What do you think?

And, speaking of the election 6 years hence, just how long will this "short term" suspension of the laws be the necessary? Afterall, the administration has indicated this is going to be a long, long war. A decade? Two? Hummmm. Perhaps the GOP better just suspend the Constitution altogether so they can make sure the democRATS don't muck things up from now on. Afterall, the world is just going to get more and more dangerous what with nanotechnology, recombinant DNA, and god knows what else on the horizon. And we all know we can't trust democRATS, can we?

That "rational" enough for you?

194 posted on 06/11/2002 1:33:59 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: BeAChooser
That was rationale! Thanks for none of the name calling that has been accompanying so many comments on threads recently!

First off, I do believe at this point in our history that you cannot just hide your head in the sand and say that everything should be the same. I don't see one item that has been passed that has affected me personally and I don't think I am an unusual case. None of my neighbors have been affected either unless you count standing hours in line to get your baggage and person checked!

This Administration is trying to figure out what to do right now to protect the American citizens while still not taking away our freedoms. I have this unusual idea that the foreigners who are here at our pleasure do not have the same rights as American citizens. If they don't like that idea, then they should go home.

As for profiling, personally it has been around for years and is not going to go away -- in fact, when it come to passenger travel they should be doing more profiling IMHO -- been there, done that! Security risks board planes because of PC and paperwork -- ordinary white Americans get the full treatment of search.

Believe that Ashcroft is doing everything possible to see that we are all protected and I do not believe he will break the law to do so. John Ashcroft has always been a man of the uptmost integrity and anyone that breaks the law that works for him IMO will be severely dealt with.

As for the laws clinton broke, please don't even bother to bring that up unless you want to tank the Republicans in total if they followed through on your wishes. Clinton will get his someday, but to go back and indict him for crimes he committed, you will probably never even get a jury to indict him nor convict him in D.C. It isn't going to happen. The press has protected him for so long that to go after him would be spinning the wheels of the Government and we don't need that at this point in time.

Maybe I look at things differently -- I have been to the Bombing Memorial in OKC and toured the Museum countless times with people here visiting. It makes you stop and think that this Administration needs to do everything possible to make sure another terrorists attack doesn't happen. But then I am in favor of setting up checkpoints for drinking or drugs while driving. I am not a Libertarian, will never be a Libertarian, and don't agree with most of what they stand for. My rights are just as important as yours -- no more -- no less! Some Liberatarians on here would have you believe that their way is the only way and they know the Constitution completely and better than anyone else. Well I thought I knew it pretty good until I went to the Find Law site to research it -- sure opened my eyes.

I believe in making my voice heard to members of Congress and at the ballot box. I get out and work for the best candidate but I have yet to agree with any candidate or leader 100% of the time. If I did, then I most likely would not be thinking.

Remember the President is the President of All the people of this Great Country and he does what he thinks is best for all. We may not always agree with him and some not at all, but one thing you can say about President Bush is that he is a man of integrity. He was my Governor when I lived in Texas and I have supported him since 1994. I have seen what he can do to make things better in a State and I believe all of you will be surprised just how he will be viewed as President during this time of crises. I also have J.C. Watts, Jr., as my Congressman, and Senators Nickles and Inhofe as my Senators -- people that I admire and respect.

I believe I live in the Greatest Country in the World -- not a perfect Country, but I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

218 posted on 06/11/2002 4:12:10 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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