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***Smart Case Stumps Police***
THE SALT LAKE TRIBUNE ^ | 6/12/02 | KEVIN CANTERA

Posted on 06/11/2002 6:33:20 AM PDT by MVV

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To: redheadtoo
I was wondering whether she might have been taken to be forced into marriage...Polygamy related abuses

She's the right age for this type of thing, as bizarre as it seems. Her family wouldn't have to be involved in any way, but someone who knows the community could easily have been.

81 posted on 06/11/2002 2:52:36 PM PDT by lsee
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82 posted on 06/11/2002 2:53:17 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: lsee
A 14 yr. old Mormon girl ran away a couple of years ago because she was going to be married off to a much older guy that she didn't like. Wonder if this is close.

The parents don't seem too concerned.....sorry....I wuldn't be able to talk and I SURE wouldn't be going on EVERY TV show out there.

The SLC Police must be REALLYYY slow since there were many neighbors at the house BEFORE the police got there.

83 posted on 06/11/2002 3:32:38 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Ann Archy
Your ignorance about Mormons is showing. The adolescents being married off to older men (often close relatives) are in little isolated polygamist sects that keep to themselves, and have no connection whatsoever to either the main LDS Church or the legitimate breakaway group, which was known as the RLDS Church until changing its name to "Community of Christ" last year. As has been widely publicized, the Smart family are active members of the LDS Church. If they, or any of their relatives or neighbors, had any connections to any of these polygamist groups, the police and Utah media would have been all over that angle by now.
84 posted on 06/11/2002 3:48:31 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: lsee
The polygamy related abuses are a serious problem with the women and children. However, for a man to steal a girl for his polygamist wife is way out there. The polygamists tend to marry girls at a young age from another polygamist family. The Smarts are not polygamists, they are a very well known family in SLC.
85 posted on 06/11/2002 4:49:30 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Ann Archy
It wasn't a Mormon girl who ran away, if LDS members are found to be in a polygamist group, we would be excommunicated immediately. The girl in question belonged to a fundamentalist group, had been 'married' to her uncle, and ran away. they found her once, took her home, and beat her, she ran away again, this time Utah Social Services found out and took custody. I do believe the uncle is in prison for sexual abuse of a minor.
86 posted on 06/11/2002 4:51:27 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Utah Girl
I am a little behind in reading here, so I am jumping ahead, hoping this was not reported yet.

Tonight, Tuesday, on O'Reilly, he had Mark Klass (sp). Mark said that he was having interference with the Uncle (Mr. Smart's brother Tom ). Mark wanted to bring in a noted artist to draw a composit of the man who abducted Elizabeth.He also said that one of the main important things that should be done is to talk with the young girl, and get a picture of the man out to the public. This is what I said in an earlier post ! Why put out the Red Berret' guy ??? UNCLE STOPPED THAT IN IT'S TRACKS !

Mark Klass also said that the Uncle is running the show, the Dad is doing the same., and they are not co-operating , I missed maybe the first 3 min. of the interview, and plan on catching the repeat at 10 central time.

He also interviewed two daughter's of this Uncle Tom, who are working with the organization to rally people for the cause. They hedged on WHY their father (Tom) is saying and doing what he is doing. It was very very strange. Catch the repeat if you can.

There is something very fishy going on. Klass was visably agitated tonight. Frustrated.

87 posted on 06/11/2002 5:46:22 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: GovernmentShrinker
What ignorance??? She was stated as a MORMON! What sect of Mormonb was NOT stated.
88 posted on 06/11/2002 5:47:23 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Utah Girl
I'm sorry if you are a Mormon and take offense, but in the story she was listed as a MORMON!
89 posted on 06/11/2002 5:49:09 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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To: Neenah
I saw that interview with Klass also. Was very interesting. Although I do think Klass was referring to the Uncle not cooperating with him.....not police. Don't quite know what to make of it.
90 posted on 06/11/2002 5:51:11 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Neenah
Bump
91 posted on 06/11/2002 5:51:55 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: MVV
Pray hard, keep eyes and ears open.
92 posted on 06/11/2002 5:54:18 PM PDT by exnavy
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To: widowithfoursons
It keeps coming to me that the 9 year old must have known the abductor, or she would not have waited to tell her folks

It is even logical to assume that she didn't wait that long but the police and parents didn't want to anger the abductor by a public announcement that the girl didn't wait. It would not be prudent to do that and anger someone who is deranged.

93 posted on 06/11/2002 5:59:09 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: freedox
This behavior suggests to me that the parents either knew or suspected that the "unknown, armed abductor" story was not entirely true.

Let me see if I understand. Yoour premise is they delayed in calling the police because they had something to do with the abduction and so to cover their tracks they invited the neighborhood over instead of the police.

Interesting theory.

94 posted on 06/11/2002 6:10:51 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Neenah
"I am a little behind in reading here....."

Keep up with your homework, Miss Neenah.....as you know, FR slackers are dealt with harshly. Smile........

95 posted on 06/11/2002 6:11:56 PM PDT by freedox
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To: VRWC_minion
LOL!!! No, you did not understand.
96 posted on 06/11/2002 6:13:45 PM PDT by freedox
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To: MVV
One thing that bothers me here. How could the perp be sure that there would be no screams from either of the girls? If someone goes into a home in the middle of the night, that must be the big thing on their mind. This is a curious aspect of this case.
97 posted on 06/11/2002 6:16:08 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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To: PJ-Comix
Say there HAD been screaming. Almost certainly he could have fled downstairs and out the door before anyone could have stopped him.

And IMO the girls of this age will scream over any imagined or real excitement or stimulation, but if frightened would clam up and crawl silent into a hole and die. [n q lit, but almost]

98 posted on 06/11/2002 6:21:48 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: PJ-Comix
How could the perp be sure that there would be no screams from either of the girls? Yes indeed. He must have had confidence that he could control the situation. Either a nutcase or someone known to the girls.
99 posted on 06/11/2002 6:23:13 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: freedox
I am tap dancing as fast as I can !!
100 posted on 06/11/2002 6:23:39 PM PDT by Neenah
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