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Bush Security Plan Has Differences
Associated Press ^ | 10 June 2002 | Curt Anders

Posted on 06/10/2002 2:34:31 PM PDT by PhiKapMom

Bush Security Plan Has Differences

By CURT ANDERSON
.c The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - Much of President Bush's proposal to create a new Homeland Security Department mirrors legislation already moving in Congress, but the White House plan differs in key areas such as intelligence, immigration and the Secret Service.

As they brace for bruising turf battles over the far-reaching plan, lawmakers say discord over these and other points could slow down the legislation Bush wants on his desk by year's end.

A House panel plans a hearing Tuesday as congressional leaders gear up to meet the president's goal. House and Senate members from both parties are to testify about their homeland security legislation.

In advance of that hearing, White House chief of staff Andrew Card privately briefed a bipartisan group of senior House staff members Monday about the Bush plan.

Card admitted to extra short-term costs arising from the transfer of 100 federal entities into a single Cabinet agency but insisted there would be no significant longer-term increases in spending or personnel, according to a participant's notes of the meeting. Card also repeatedly urged lawmakers to move the plan quickly, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Questions are being raised by Republicans and Democrats about Bush's idea to have the new department sift through intelligence gathered by the CIA, FBI, National Security Agency and others. Some critics say intelligence analysis will not improve unless the new department has more direct authority over these agencies.

Seeking to allay these concerns, Director of Homeland Security Tom Ridge said Monday that the new department would provide a critical missing piece by synthesizing all the intelligence, checking it for threats and then acting on those threats.

``Basically, the department will be able to put together all of the pieces of the puzzle, and depending on what the picture shows, take the requisite action,'' Ridge told a National Association of Broadcasters meeting.

Another flash point is Bush's plan to move the Immigration and Naturalization Service to the new agency from the Justice Department. Rep. Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, said some lawmakers object to combining the agency's duty to process legitimate immigrant visas with the job of border control under the ``homeland security'' title.

``There may be some concern that it could send the wrong message, that it's anti-immigrant or something,'' said Thornberry, co-sponsor of a House homeland security agency bill.

Plans to move the Secret Service out of the Treasury Department present more problems. The agency is best known for protecting the president and other top administration officials, but it also investigates counterfeiting, credit card fraud and Internet fraud.

Other differences between Bush's proposal and bills in the House and Senate:

House and Senate bills would create a White House anti-terrorism office with an overall job of coordinating intelligence, defense and law enforcement for the president. Bush would keep the office occupied by Ridge as it is.

The president envisions an entire division devoted to chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear countermeasures with elements drawn from national laboratories, health agencies and others. The congressional measures do not have this division.

Under Bush's proposal, the new department would include the just-created Transportation Security Administration, which handles most air travel security issues.

Despite these and other differences, lawmakers say the existing legislation can be modified quickly to reflect Bush's plan. Thornberry said the House's legislative counsel is helping the White House put its proposal into the detailed legislative language necessary to move forward.

``We're trying to speed things up as much as possible,'' Thornberry said.

House and Senate leaders also are trying to get ahead of expected jurisdiction battles in Congress that could slow down the bill, which touches 88 committees or subcommittees.

GOP House leaders will meet Tuesday to begin considering the options, which include a special select committee that could work out the broad components and then let the existing committees put on the final touches.

In the Democratic-led Senate, the Governmental Affairs and Judiciary committees both have a claim on jurisdiction. Governmental Affairs, chaired by Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., has an advantage because it approved his homeland security bill on May 22.

Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., has made no decision on how to continue, a spokeswoman said. Daschle meets Tuesday with Democratic senators to go over the president's proposal.

The House and Senate bills are H.R. 4660 and S. 2452.

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To: Plutarch
Are the FBI and CIA going to report to this new cabinet authority? Seems like I don't recall the mention of these two bad boys in GWB's speech. I don't think any new cabinet member will have much of an idea what is going on unless those two agencies are brought under this new umbrella.
21 posted on 06/10/2002 3:56:43 PM PDT by honeymagnolia
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To: PhiKapMom;joanie-f;snopercod;mommadooo3;JeanS
This thing will probably include a firearms control amendment and other touching additions ... which of course, President Bush will sign, telling us the same "reasoning" with which he approved the Campaign Finance Reform bill or the same "reasoning" behind his approval of a vast immigration net mostly full of holes.
22 posted on 06/10/2002 4:16:31 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: honeymagnolia
Well, golly, gee! I see you are on this thread as well!

If you will read the Washington Post article about how this was organized, you will understand why there are constitutional and securiy reasons why these agencies were kept separate.

Not to mention until we figure out how badly the FBI was infiltrated (Robert Hansen) it is better that the FBI be kept separate.

23 posted on 06/10/2002 4:45:47 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Ole Okie
Couldn't agree more that this is definitely part of what is wrong with Congress! I was shocked to read about so many committees/subcommittees with just these few organizations. I cannot imagine how many there are in all of Congress.
24 posted on 06/10/2002 5:23:54 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: First_Salute
Facts please not inuendoes about gun control! Why do you think this would have anything to do with gun control when this Administration through AG Ashcroft just supported the 2nd amendment?
25 posted on 06/10/2002 5:25:44 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
The Bush [still running the Clinton] Administration is compromised by such left-, hold-, overs; in addition to which is the little matter, or the fact of the matter, that the Congress will construct the legislation; that is to say, the Hillary Clinton - Tom Daschle - Charles Schumer triumvirate.

You may recall that the camel is a horse designed by legislative committee.

Builders who would make changes for their own interested outcome, not to mention the making of even more changes which would present as a challenge to the President, to see just how far they can continue to compromise him,

26 posted on 06/10/2002 8:41:49 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
This is bound to get more interesting with all the personal interests of Congress involved. Have a hunch they may have pushed this President all that they are going to because he has raised a ton of money for Republicans this Fall to Take Back and Senate and Keep the House. Believe the RATS headed by daschle/clinton have misjudged this President. Just wish that Lott wasn't in charge of the Republicans in the Senate -- I don't trust him at all!
27 posted on 06/10/2002 8:49:38 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
May interest you:

Letter to Charlton Heston regarding and defending our individual rights

A Call to Arms is not Sufficient

We only have the rights we defend, as long as we are able.

28 posted on 06/10/2002 8:54:05 PM PDT by First_Salute
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