A New Round of Anger and Humiliation: Islam after 9/11

Stanford: Hoover Institution Press, 2002, pp. 41-61. ^ | 10 jun 02 | Daniel Pipes

[Poohbah]

To a certain extent, you HAVE to "sympathize" with ytour enemy--you have to understand WHAT he wants, why he REALLY didn't get it, and why he THINKS he didn't get it.

That takes, among other skills, the ability to empathize with one's fellow human beings.

[Tijeras_Slim]

the Muslim world had experienced more than eighty years of "humiliation and disgrace" at American hands

And that's before you pissed us off.

[Dan Day]

I "understand" the impact, allright, and I do it just fine without the touchy-feely New Age BS.

Try reading the whole article. Its point is that given the Muslim outlook, the harder we hit them, the less enthusiastic they become about terrorism, the more discredited their whackos become, and the more influence the moderates in their society gain. It makes a great case that Bush was right, and the "but you'll just make them mad" peaceniks were wrong.

[MEGoody]

"Power, wealth, health, and education moved elsewhere"

Those things tend to happen under a cruel, totalitarian dictatorship.

[smith288]

2 yrs ago, i doubt it would have mattered how many were killed. It would have been followed by legal action and maybe a few missiles. History says that.

[ValenB4]

The only disagreement I have with this is the term "Islamists" to label the enemy. I prefer something along the lines of "Jihadist" so as to differentiate from the term Islam. We're not exactly dealing with very sophisticated peoples where literacy is prevalent.

[ValenB4]

You probably didn't do very well on your SAT verbal test did you?

[tet68]

You have it correct,as any good salesman can tell you,
there is a very great difference between sympathy and empathy.

[reagan_fanatic]

"If Islam brings God’s grace, many Muslims have asked themselves, why then do Muslims fare so poorly?"

A) Because of an inherent hostility to anyone not muslim
B) And because they worship a MOON GOD.

[smith288]

It sounded like a "This is why they are confused and on the wrong side of victory" type of explaination.

Reading an entire article does wonders.

[Redbob]

Their "humiliation" is rooted in their original refusal to enter the 20th Century, now compounded by the fact they've fallen yet another century behind!

At the rate the Arab world is progressing, it's "Middle Ages, here we come!"

[Gorzaloon]

I'm an Economist, so while I may lack the specific training, I can usually muscle through the math if given time, so I'd appreciate any explanation from someone with a better understanding than the average book reviewer

I admit to a lack of patience. If something appears to be headed in an unacceptable direction, my mind instantly gags on it.

I was not this way on September 10th of last year.

There have been so many articles that turn out sympathetic to the killers, that I cannot see beyond my fury, and sadly, admit it.

..And admit, that on certain matters, I "Simply do not want to hear it." It is a sad thing to happen to someone who was brought up by accepting and nonjudgemental parents.

But I am, with a lot of others, someone else now.

[Gorzaloon]

Bah.Wrong quote was in my "Cut and paste buffer"! Don't even try to make sense of the prior post!!!!

Sorry!

[mercy]

I'm glad the scholars of the world are willing to wade through this much BS to understand things. Personaly I find it tedious. It all boils down to something much easier to understand.

Muslims MUST kill Jews. This is the center of their being in this age. We won't let them so we deserve to die. That's the real crux of the matter. Islam is paltry religion that has fostered little but corrupt potentates and misery. The West has fostered a lot of crap it's true. We've also raised mankind to his greatest heights. We are still a people of charity more than a people of pornographic excess.

As long as Islam insists on violence we should return it to them ten fold.

[justanotherfreeper]

In similar fashion, the Arab media turned on bin Laden when he began looking like a loser... Indeed, some analysts went so far as to suspect that the damage bin Laden had caused Islam was an Israeli plot!

ROTFLMBO -- that says it all!

[Kozak]

Reminds me of the quote about Germans:
"The Hun is either at your throat or at your feet."

A solid firepower demonstration and these dogs shut up.

[Pagey]

BUMP

[smith288]

I appreciate your honesty... 9-11 did alot to alot of us.

[iceskater]

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