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To: mj1234
There might have been manipulation of data. 2 instances come to mind....replacement of temperature monitoring stations during the CARTER administration the original design was abandoned (after almost 100 years of use) to a new design Voila! temperature increases in the U.S.

There's quite a bit of evidence that the Earth was warming before the Carter administration. But more importantly, there's nothing in what you say that indicates intentional deception.

#2 since the 1960's antartica has had the most stable and accurate measurements taken over a continent (very little human activity) the mean temperature has DROPPED! This cannot- statistically happen if there is global warming.

What climate model are you basing that statistical claim on? It's not in the least obvious to me; the Earth's atmosphere is not a thermos bottle. Furthermore, if you are claiming that some of the data are faked and can't be trusted, why do you trust those data?

--For good measure take a look at Nasa and how they have "recalculated" their data of orbiting weather satellites----there is a political/economic agenda being waged by the Marxists to damage the U.S.

Do you know how many people would have to be in on such a deception? It's like the O.J. defense claims times ten thousand.

There is an agenda lurking behind much of the global warming talk, but it's overwhelmingly subconscious, and all of it has to do not with the data themselves, but with the interpretation of the data. The data do indicate that the Earth is warmer now than it was 100 years ago, but whether that can be attributed to human action depends chiefly on where your sympathies lie. The opinions of many of the scientists involved may suck carbon monoxide, but that has nothing to do with any sort of fraud.

36 posted on 06/09/2002 12:04:21 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Sorry it took so long for me to respond,--First the deception of falsified data can be found at several sites-- Anxietycenter.com...SEPP.org....OISM.org--thousands of scientisits claiming the goverment is not following scientific anlysis of data. #2 Antartica, that data has been gleaned from NOAA's own raw research--that antartica's mean temperature has fallen...since global warming supposedly has occrurred (all over the planet) except in Antartica???!! How does any scientist not ask for more data and more observations before PROCLAIMING global warming. #3 NASA could not explain why their weather satelites showed a total temperature drop (over a 20 year span of data recording) They have since publicly stated that satellites were wobbling--not in perfect geosynch orbit- guess what most scientists would do - START overwith this experiment!!--NOT NASA (maybe the budget wasn't there)- they FUDGED temperature observation with current identified satellite wobble?! Voila they assume some temp. increase (within acceptable parameters)!How can anyone argue with this logic--no one has argued...keep repeating after me ....don't question,don't ask
44 posted on 06/09/2002 5:24:23 PM PDT by mj1234
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