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1 posted on 06/06/2002 5:33:13 PM PDT by knak
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Bump for later. Thanks.
2 posted on 06/06/2002 5:35:19 PM PDT by RightWhale
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Sounds logical to me. All of our homeland security responsibilities should be folded into a single department so all the people who have the responsibility, work together to protect this country from future attacks. 911 NEVER AGAIN.
3 posted on 06/06/2002 5:38:43 PM PDT by goldstategop
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What it looks like that he is combining some functions of many agency into one big agency.
5 posted on 06/06/2002 5:39:06 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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While congress is sitting around doing Abbot and Costello impersonations of Who's on first, Bush puts a action plan on table.
6 posted on 06/06/2002 5:39:19 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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Okay, the self-righteous cry from the all-caring Liberals in response to tax cuts (for the rich) was, "How are we going to PAY for this?!?!"

So -- assuming they're going to say the same thing again </sarcasm> -- let's pay for this by eliminating the cabinet-level Departments of Education and Energy (at least).

How 'bout it, Dubya (and Bushies)? Are you game? Either you're with us, or you're against us.

7 posted on 06/06/2002 5:39:54 PM PDT by newgeezer
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Wow! This really is a shakeup. They should just call it the Security Department.
9 posted on 06/06/2002 5:43:45 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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Does BATF stay in Treasury?
10 posted on 06/06/2002 5:45:02 PM PDT by caltrop
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Damn this is scarier than the structure of the KGB and the NKVD.
11 posted on 06/06/2002 5:45:15 PM PDT by dts32041
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Knowing a little about the federal bureaucracy, I wonder were all these "new" employees are going to be housed and who is going to sign their checks?

Better go put your re-org boots on kids, this is going to be a rough one.

19 posted on 06/06/2002 5:50:08 PM PDT by SBeck
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Sounds good on the surface, but where's the small print?
21 posted on 06/06/2002 5:51:33 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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This is a huge undertaking. Nothing like this, has ever been attempted before. It will take time to restructure and reorganize. I hope it all works out in end. My biggest concern, is now much will all this increase the federal budget?

And is Tom Ridge the man to head it up?

My vote is for Rudi Guilani.

I have some reservations, but my support is with President Bush. After all, America is at war and if we want to win, all American's have to support the Commander In Chief.

23 posted on 06/06/2002 5:52:26 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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Who will head this Barney Fife? Hillary Clinton?
24 posted on 06/06/2002 5:52:35 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Did I miss it or did he not at all mention the Fingerprint men from middle-eastern countries idea?
25 posted on 06/06/2002 5:52:44 PM PDT by Mixer
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31 posted on 06/06/2002 5:57:39 PM PDT by Bob J
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At first glance, this looks like a hybrid department: Some law enforcement, intelligence, border control. biological research, science research, computer infrastructure security, etc.

On further thought, the department will be dangerously close to a domestic military, IMHO, with a "navy", and "army". Someone will realize they don't have an "air force" and that will be on the table soon.

I saw elswhere the department is slated to have 17,000 employees and a budget of $37 billion. I expect both numbers to rise.

This should not be rammed through unexamined. Thank God for our system of checks and balances.

32 posted on 06/06/2002 5:57:52 PM PDT by kristinn
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Thanks for the summary.

Health and Human Services would of course need to transition some of its chem./bio “defense” effort, but the lion’s share of the current efforts in chem./bio defense is conducted within the Defense Department. HHS is more concerned with natural occurring issues and DoD is exclusively concerned with weapons of mass destruction (chem./bio/nuclear). I wonder what the impact on DoD will be?

35 posted on 06/06/2002 6:00:57 PM PDT by Dale 1
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Agriculture Department will lose the Plum Island Animal Disease Center

Did anyone say "bioweapons test center"?

42 posted on 06/06/2002 6:07:21 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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It will also affect National Institutes of Health researchers working on vaccines for various deadly agents and epidemiologists at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who respond to public health emergencies such at last fall's anthrax attack.

The changes here will be much more complicated than most of the others. In the other cases, existing agencies or sub-agencies are being moved in-toto into the new department. In these cases, we will be dividing up people who work sometimes in adjoining offices, and always in the same buildings, as people who will stay with the NIH and the CDC. Probably they will move people around within complexes, putting all of those going to the new department in one or more buildings, then moving those buildings into the new department.

62 posted on 06/06/2002 6:19:25 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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Gleischaltung
67 posted on 06/06/2002 6:23:07 PM PDT by El Sordo
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I don't have TV, so what I know I gleaned from the live speech thread, and the above proposed changes which make up the new department.

In all, it was an excellent move both in appearance and substance. A solid structural change to the government that hopefully will have lasting positive effects with the downstream potential for smaller, cost-effective government while protecting our citizenry and borders. It fits my definition of 'conservative' and 'constitutional' and was very "Reaganesque" as Regan_man put it on another thread.

As with corporate M&A and reorg's, this will be difficult and time consuming to implement, but if Bush et al bear down on it, it is achievable and worth doing. I would like to see him set a goal of having the management structure in place by 2004 (congress willing), and the human and physical infrastructure chnages completed by 2008 (assuming he is relected).

If Bush keeps this up, he'll make a believer out of me.

82 posted on 06/06/2002 6:47:07 PM PDT by Starwind
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