List of proposed changes

nj.com ^ | 6/6/02

[knak]

Mineta was consulted in advance, said spokesman Chet Lunner. There are 36,000 people in the Coast Guard, which rescues boaters in addition to patrolling ports and offshore platforms and tracking smugglers and drugs.

[rwfromkansas]

Gary, I am almost positive people said the same thing when the CIA was created etc.

[harpo11]

Whenever I have had the pleasure to talk to a member of the Greatest Generation about WWII and homefront attitudes. It seems everyone says about the same thing, We knew what we had to do and United we did what we had to do.They did everything necessary to win the war. There was no other choice. It had to be done. Full Victory--nothing less.

I'm glad our President came out tonight, talked to us, the American people, outlined his program for the defense of our country and citizens and poured cold water on the farce of Sen. Leaky Leahy's political grandstanding and posturing committee hearings specifically designed to point blame at President Bush's and divert out focus and divide us from each other when we need to be absolutely united.

Hopefully, Leahy will get the message, this is not a time to be screwing around with our intelligence agencies at such a vitally critical period in our young Republic's life and prosperous future.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Wow! This really is a shakeup. They should just call it the Security Department."

And soon it will function like the KGB. "Quis Cuodes Custodiet?"

[rwfromkansas]

Yep, coming before the U.N. opposing a weapons treaty, changing a decades-old precedent in order to protect your right to own a gun, withdrawing from the IBM treaty to work on missile defense, and refusing to take part in the ICC are just horridly liberal moves. Yes, Bush HAS done some bad things, but he has done a heck of a lot of good and a perfect conservative could never win election unfortunately.

[Reagan Man]

It is also a huge bureaucratic reorganization, needful of an extremely aggressive corporate executive COO type, of which Ridge may have more the Guliani, but I doubt either has enough to pull this off.

Like O'Reilly said tonight and I happen to agree with him, Tom Ridge looks like the $700 suit guy, who hasn't proven himself, yet. Ridge might work out over time, but I'll put my money on Guiliani. This was made for Rudi Guilani and no one else. He turned NYCity around in eight years, reducing violent crimes and bringing down murders from 2500/year to 600/year. He cleaned up the Big Apple, like I've never seen it. And his excellent overall leadership following 9-11, I think really helped prepare the city for the aftermath effects. Rudi's got a solid resume all around. I don't know of anyone, better suited for the job, then Guilani.

[Starwind]

withdrawing from the IBM treaty to work on missile defense

Oh man! I'm dumping my IBM stock tomorrow!

[cva66snipe]

We are close to that point now. Your neighbor can snitch on you, the DHHS come into your home and take your kids from you, give you no name as to who has accused you, and make you prove you are innocent, all this rather than them having prove you are guilty. I see this as an expansion of more of the same into other areas of our lives. No not by Bush but as I said he will not be POTUS forever. It's better to pass no leglislation or leglislation at a snails pace than to hurridly pass an ill concieved idea fed by persons fear and emotions hoping government will protect them from all evils and in doing so surrender the rights given to us.

[Diddle E. Squat]

Now THAT is a good post!

[The Mayor]

Bump for later. Thanks.

[Pistias]

Critical Infrastructure Assurance Office

"CIAO?" That's grim, but rather funny.

[Starwind]

Well, those are good points in favor of Guiliani.

That said, whoever has the job will have a 2-6 year re-org project ahead of them:

• Select and promote senior managers
• Formulate and communicate new specific mission directives
• Formulate intermediate and long-term organization structure, with resources
• Work around or remove existing bureaucrats
• Realign and audit budgets
• Realign personnel and channel them into new coordinated mission directions (by this point some benefit should be measureable)
• Eliminate obsoleted functions

From the start of Congress approving, I can see that alone taking till 2004.

The rest would include:

• Plan and implement new systems and infrastructure (computers, boats, fences checkpoints, etc)
• Roll out to points of intervention (airports, border crossing, harbors, depots, refineries, power generators, reseviors, etc..)
• Integrate or redevelop various computer systems to work together to support new mission directives (this alone is a monumental undertaking for even high tech companies)
• Physical relocation of personnel to different facilities for mission cohesion and synergy
• Remove (if possible) deadwood government personnel (non-performers).

I'm sure Democrats will want their oversight pound of flesh, ACLU challenges will need be fought, and I wouldn't be surprised to even see an occasional demand for an Evironmnetal Impact Study. This could easily take an additional 4 years to implement correctly in detail.

[Lazamataz]

. He cleaned up the Big Apple, like I've never seen it. And his excellent overall leadership following 9-11, I think really helped prepare the city for the aftermath effects. Rudi's got a solid resume all around. I don't know of anyone, better suited for the job, then Guilani.

While you and I are in agreement, remember this: The Giuliani of today is not the Giuliani of 8 years ago. His performance, while solid, would be lessened by his bouts with cancer and his personal upheavals.

[rwfromkansas]

It is something that can't be justified.

[rwfromkansas]

oops...lol!

[Reagan Man]

You know what they say about being of mayor of NYCity. Next to the job of POTUS, the mayor of NYCity has the second toughtest job in America. And you'll not find a more aggresive, tenacious, assertive and strong individual, then Rudi Guliani.

But Bush and Ridge are buddies and the job is his, if he wants it.

[rockfish59]

Petronius......you da' man!

[mlibertarianj]

I am almost positve, that people said the same thing when the CIA, was created.

And some of those people were right. Take a look at the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover turned the organization into a massive demostic spying agency, more concerned about Reds, than criminals, People like Albert Einstein, Hemingway, Paul Robeson, Civil Rights and Union activists, academics,writers and others were more dangerous in Hoover's mind than the Mafia. I believe that GW's heart in the right place, but if history is a marker, this thing can grow into a very frightening organization, unless there are some Constitutional protections attached to them.

[mlibertarianj]

I am almost positve, that people said the same thing when the CIA, was created.

And some of those people were right. Take a look at the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover turned the organization into a massive demostic spying agency, more concerned about Reds, than criminals, People like Albert Einstein, Hemingway, Paul Robeson, Civil Rights and Union activists, academics,writers and others were more dangerous in Hoover's mind than the Mafia. I believe that GW's heart in the right place, but if history is a marker, this thing can grow into a very frightening organization, unless there are some Constitutional protections attached to them.