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A SICKING TALE OF THE UNION MENTALITY AT WORK
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Posted on 06/06/2002 5:39:12 AM PDT by Rodney King

A SICKING TALE OF THE UNION MENTALITY AT WORK

Matthew Barrick was eight years old when he died this past February. It was a brain aneurysm. Apparently Matthew was quite popular at the Roadoan Elementary School in Brooklyn. The funeral services were private, so an idea was hatched to plant a tree at the school in honor of Matthew.

The idea grew. Two local landscapers offered their help. Some local businesses like Home Depot got into the act. Soon about $3,000 in materials were obtained and the students gathered to plan the tree and do a little landscaping. They sang songs and wrote letters to Matthew.

Uh oh. It seems that some of the custodians at the school are upset. UNION custodians. You see, their duties include landscaping. They are not pleased that these students came over to the school to plant that tree in honor of a dead student. They want to be paid.

Yes --- you heard me right. The custodians want to be paid for the landscaping work. Never mind that they didn’t lift a finger. Never mind that the work didn’t cost them one single work hour at work. Goonion members Mark Hennings and Doug Scott want to be paid for the work. What’s more, they want to be paid at the time-and-a-half rate of $37 an hour because, after all, the volunteers did the work on a weekend!

The matter came up at a school board meeting in May. The union dopes insisted that the volunteer work violated their union contract. Other union members stood and applauded.

Now you see why I love unions so much?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: lazy; plumberscrack; unions
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To: perotista
If you really don't want to do that, then in fairness, you have to pull the regulations off the unions, too, like "sister strikes", and things are going to get REAL ugly.

This statement is chillingly terroristic. Do what we want or we'll make you sorry.

41 posted on 06/06/2002 7:21:02 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: Cuttnhorse
Just curious, who gets to decide what a living wage is??

Why I do, of course. And I declare a living wage to be 1/4 of whatever I make. If that isn't enough, I need a raise.

Just kidding, of course. But I can see this type of mentality being used in part by the left to determine such a wage.

"I spent 4 years in college getting a degree in Phychology; I deserve more than that McDonalds worker even if my skills aren't marketable..."

42 posted on 06/06/2002 7:21:32 AM PDT by meyer
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To: Rodney King
They want to be paid? Then pay them. In lead birdshot. 20 gauge. In the ass. Then tell them their next payday will be 12 gauge buckshot.
43 posted on 06/06/2002 7:24:40 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Poohbah
Not a "War of Northern Aggression" post.

I was deliberately wasting your time, sir.

44 posted on 06/06/2002 7:25:15 AM PDT by dighton
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To: perotista
Then you have to take the gloves off everyone, including the unions. You can't have it both ways -- the government regulating "them" but not "you".

It could be argued, then, that a union is a conspiracy to raise the price of labor through violence. Thus, unions could be considered criminal enterprises.

45 posted on 06/06/2002 7:28:01 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: perotista
OK, I'll bite: How many people should be paid more than their work is worth? Why stop at "living" wage? Why not make it a "comfortable" wage? Let's raise the minimum wage to $100,000 a year. Why not? I mean... then everybody could afford to pay $100 for a Big Mac, right?
46 posted on 06/06/2002 7:29:59 AM PDT by Ramius
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To: Cagey
I would say that is unfrigging believeable, but then again its union. I worked for a computer company about a decade ago and we used to get deliveries of equipment at the back of the loading dock everyday. I remember one day we set some equipment on the back dock to be picked up, but it was raining so we moved the equipment back a couple of feet underneath the awning so that it would not get wet. Lo and behold the union morons came by and refused to pick it up because they claimed that the equipment was not in the proper pick up place as stated in the contract. It was literally 2-3 feet from the end of the loading dock.
47 posted on 06/06/2002 7:30:49 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: perotista
If the job isn't worth $7/hr, it's not worth $37/hr either, so it still wouldn't get done. The difference would be that I could go to the union or individuals and try to make a deal to get workers at a wage I can afford to pay, not an option with a living wage law.

Or, as already mentioned, I say fine, pay the $7/hr and raise the price of my goods. Me and millions of other businesses do that, so the living wage has to go up, so at least one large round of inflation has to happen, even graciously assuming that it slows or even stops after that. That means that the college fund you've been putting into for 15 years is now good for the first semester, or the house down payment you've been saving up for is now another five years away, etc. Only fair to compensate people for that too, right? After all, it was a government decision, not some failing on their part, so subsidizing the education or the housing market is the right thing to do. After all, being a good Christian conservative, you wouldn't want people to lose their life savings, would you?

48 posted on 06/06/2002 7:31:37 AM PDT by m1911
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To: Aria;TomT in NJ
I was born in 1973, so I have no direct experience of the times. However, from books and films and talking to people wo were alive then, it seems that there was national self-confidence, optimism, politeness, that are missing today, to name a few.

Australia's out, unfortunately, due to their silly firearms laws.

49 posted on 06/06/2002 7:32:15 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: perotista; Rodney King
It keeps arguing based on 'Conservative Christian Principles'. I think it's a troll.
50 posted on 06/06/2002 7:32:19 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: perotista
"If someone chooses not to work, don't just hand them money, send them to a shelter, sustenance room and board only."

Say what? I somehow think this (although sounding like a nice, charitable idea) is not something in our Consititution, nor is it a means of helping people be responsible to themselves, and therefore, to the rest of the country and the economy.
51 posted on 06/06/2002 7:35:22 AM PDT by Still Using Air
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To: Cuttnhorse
This thread could go on for weeks if we start telling dumb union stories...

During a college summer break, I had a job drilling water wells. Once, another guy and I had to go to Dow Chemical to hook up the pump for a new well. We got the wires connected but union rules prevented us from turning on the switch to test the pump. So, an electrician had to come out to throw the switch. After the test, the pump was not to remain on, and neither we, nor the electrician who could flip the switch on, could turn it off. So, we needed a second electrician who was union certified to turn off the switch off. The pump housing contained a small pipe to divert condensation away from the motor. The pipe was uninvolved in the test, but a pipe-fitter had to be at the scene anyway. Union regulations stipulated that members had to work in pairs, so we actually had two electricians to turn the switch on, two to turn it off, and two pipe-fitters. The size of the crew required the presence of a foreman. They also needed a van and van driver to transport these "workers" to the site. There you have it, eight employees, probably and hour to assemble everyone, get to the pump, test the switch, and return to another assignment. All for something I could have done myself in less than a minute. UFB.

52 posted on 06/06/2002 7:36:29 AM PDT by laredo44
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To: IYAS9YAS
Does it not bother anyone that the time and a half for these lunkheads is $37/hour? That works out to $24.67/hour regular time. Never should have gone to college and gotten a degree if I'd known I could join a uselession and make $5.00 an hour more than I make now on regular pay.

But to make $25 an hour on a union job, three other jobs had to be destroyed, or not created. The whole purpose of a modern union is to get more pay for less work for union members. If a company can't expand and create more jobs because of union wages, tough.

I've seen unskilled UAW workers, who make $50K per year on straight time, whine when the overtime vanishes, and they no longer take in $100K per year. They claim that their union status demands that the rest of us "buy union" so they can maintain their standard of living.

The strange thing is, union people still aren't happy with what they have. They constantly watch one another, making sure someone isn't working too hard, because maybe they will all have to. Or seeing someone getting away with less work, and trying to figure out how they can get away with it, too. You're no longer dependent on the company for your job (the union gave you your job), but instead have to stay in the good graces of the boss of your local union.

Like liberalism in general, unionism is based on envy, so you're in a constant struggle to get more for yourself with less work, while making sure that nobody takes anything away from you.

53 posted on 06/06/2002 7:36:50 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: parsifal;perotista
Hey, parsy - found you a new friend! general_re the matchmaker...
54 posted on 06/06/2002 7:37:39 AM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
LOL - nice one.
55 posted on 06/06/2002 7:40:34 AM PDT by m1911
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To: perotista
Your right, This is a Christian nation. We will not allow people to starve in the streets. That is what charities are for. You know, those places you can send your money of your own free will, to support whatever cause you choose.

If the moral fabric of this nation ever degrades to the point that charities do not work, no amount of governmental control will save us. We either strengthen the moral fabric of this nation and return to the constitution and the founding principles, or we perish as a nation trying to make government the sole source of some twisted morality.


In other words, You cannot legislate morality. It either exists or it doesn’t. No nation can stand for long or remain free without it.


(I am not using the word morality in a generic way. Not all moralities are created equal. I am using the morality of the founders and Christianity as the definition. The morality of the socialists/communists is wrong headed and leads to devastation.
57 posted on 06/06/2002 7:47:01 AM PDT by myself6
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To: perotista; rodney king; chemist_geek
I remember the 50's when most working class men, like my father, working 40 hours a week, earned enough to support a family of four, buy a small house and a decent little car, and took a family vacation to Florida every year.

In addition to federal, state, and local government taking more and more of our money now, than they took back in the 50's, people also spend a greater percentage of their income on "non-essential essentials." Although automobiles, for example, were more expensive back in the 50's as a percentage of family income, most suburban families only had one car. I look around today and see two, three, sometimes four automobiles per household. People also have muliple TV's, VCR's/DVD's, cable bills, ISP bills, multiple cell phone bills, designer clothing, larger houses, built in swimming pools, home spas, health club memberships, lotto tickets, interest on credit card bills, and a host of other places to spend and many cases waste their money. If we all limited our spending to food, basic clothing, a "small house and a decent little car" and a once a year trip to Florida (where we stayed wirth relatives rather than in an expensive hotel), we would probably discover that even the so-called "working poor" make more than enough to support a family of four.

58 posted on 06/06/2002 7:47:38 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Rodney King
Since this seems to be the thread to post silly union stories I will contribute one of my own.

I was flying across the country on vacation and after a stopover in St. Louis I boarded the plane and they began preparing to pull away from the gate. All was fine and dandy except one of the overhead compartments wouldn't close. Two flight attendants tried, then the copilot. The pilot announced that regs required it to be closed or secured before we could leave.

Finally, after a half an hour of sitting and waiting, TWO union guys came on, took 2 strips of duct tape, taped the compartment closed, left the plane, and we were pulled back and taking off in less than 5 minutes.

59 posted on 06/06/2002 7:48:29 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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To: perotista
Charity, given of free will! That is the only sustainable answer.
60 posted on 06/06/2002 7:50:07 AM PDT by myself6
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