[MizSterious]

"I am astounded that parents of other children come to these folks defense so easily. All the concern seems to be about "their" loss. Pardon me, but my concern was for the little girl who was placed in harms way and paid the ultimate price. To hell with the parents. "

D1, that is so well-stated that I just had to come out of lurk-mode and applaud your courage in saying it. But it's the truth! The absolute truth. And certain members here now can no longer hide behind the "well, we don't know that they were swingers..." excuse. The lead-swinger, the grand poohbah of the swingers himself just said so.

I also do not understand the people who say, "they didn't 'deserve' to lose their daughter." Actually, they did. The daughter--and both young sons--should have been removed from the home long ago by the authorities.

It's the daughter, though, that didn't deserve the life she had, nor the death she suffered.

[Amore]

Miz, I was watching the beginning of the CTV showing of Damon's testimony (I think a lot of this is being shown on CTV for the first time at least on the East Coast), and boy, it's bad, though we knew it had to be there. Once he was on the stand and couldn't ignore a direct question any more, out it came. Anyway, I read the middle of your post, without knowing it was yours, and found myself just nodding in agreement,

I also do not understand the people who say, "they didn't 'deserve' to lose their daughter." Actually, they did. . . . It's the daughter, though, that didn't deserve the life she had, nor the death she suffered.

So true. Danielle herself did not deserve what happened.

[Amore]

Oh, and just went back and read the start of your post. Maybe I've missed it, but HAS anyone ever said, "ok, you guys, you were right & I was wrong about the swinging, now let's move on"? Some, and again, Kim, I'd ping you to this thread if I could type your name, but some (not just Kim) have been defending the VDs for months with arguments like how the VD's (themselves!) didn't deny the swinging allegations on Larry King because they didn't want to dignify it with an answer. Oh, please!

If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. I've done it before here and will most likely have to do so again. I recommend such an action, it does a lot to keep anger from escalating. Well, hopefully that will be my "can't we all just get along" bromide for the day.

[spectre]

The simple truth of the matter is these parents were morally bankrupt and had no self control. They were irresponsible in their role as guardians to their children, and allowed many people with questionable motives into their home without reguard to the safty of their own children.

So many people into their home, they lost count. They did testify that DW had NEVER been to their home...hummmm.

Anything could have happened to their children...and something BAD consequently did.

DW could well have been involved, but they remain the main source for easy access to the little girl.

One excuse after another...One lie after another...sw

[RnMomof7]

I also do not understand the people who say, "they didn't 'deserve' to lose their daughter." Actually, they did. The daughter--and both young sons--should have been removed from the home long ago by the authorities.

You are right..

[DoughtyOne]

Thank you for your comments.

[semaj]

It's called chastisement. These parents failed on many different levels. They failed their daughter and themselves and now they must confess before the world and God, all there evil deeds. Who says God isn't just?