Posted on 06/05/2002 11:36:24 PM PDT by FresnoDA
Mailing Address: 10871 LAMENTIN CT, SAN DIEGO, CA 92124
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Expiration Date: 09/29/03
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Original License Date: 08/16/91 (Unofficial -- taken from secondary records)
Former Name(s): Ballard, Barbara L
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Perhaps I missed some of this part, but if not it seems that the 911 call happened very quickly.
I tried to imagine being in a similar situation. I think I may exahust a few other things before the call.
I certainly think that I might be on the phone to the police but while I was, my husband would be knocking on doors, yelling, etc.
I would have sent my ten-year-old son around to neighbor's homes too. It's a little weird that they were all in the home and both parents were by the phone.
Since this case is so very strange, it warrants a consideration of everything, IMO. Was the call to 911 made because they already knew she wouldn't be found in the house or neighborhood but had to get the "disappearance" on record?
I put nothing past these people. I know some people don't want to look negatively at them because they are "victims" but they are not the average mom and dad.....period !!!!
My guess it isn't in the transcripts but will be watching for it. PDvD kinda shoved it in quiet like.
Gonna try to catch the afternoon testimony.
That of course is true and hey, we agree. Gosh, FR is S L O W
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You would have let another child out of your sight at this point as an innocent parent??? HUMMMM, I find that super interesting.
It was ten in the morning. Her daughter went to bed at 10:00 p.m. the previous night. How about, "I can't find my daughter. She's not in the house."
That sounded wierd to me.
I believe she said, "I went upstairs and her door was open. She wasn't there." Who opened the door? When was the door opened? It was only opened a crack when they went to bed.
Also if the door was opened, you can't tell me the other children wouldn't have noticed that Danielle wasn't at home until 10:00 a.m. Nothing seems to make sense here.
I too thought something was not as it seems. If Brenda knew that DW was just interested in meeting her friends - especially Barbara - why did she say she felt guilty for sort of having her back turned towards him. She said something to him like "I'm sorry - I don't mean to be rude but I came here to be with my friends." Was DW really interested in her - not the friends?
Did you all catch the part where Brenda said that at some point during the night DW came up to her and said something like "I've talked to Rich - and I know what you're all about." Brenda says she replied that he'd have to talk to Rich about that. What's up with that?
Danielle's mother takes the stand
By Jeff Dillon June 5, 2002 SAN DIEGO A day after her husband, the mother of slain Danielle van Dam took the witness stand Thursday morning in the murder trial of David Westerfield. Brenda van Dam broke down in tears several times during questioning that covered topics such as the length of Danielle's hair, her handful of encounters with the suspect and her discovery of Danielle's disappearance from her bedroom on Feb. 1. "I have an emergency. My daughter's not in her bed this morning. She's only 7," Brenda van Dam is heard telling the dispatcher in an audiotape of her 911 call to police. The dispatcher asks for more details, then assures van Dam: "Think positive thoughts and everything will be OK." Cross-examined by lead defense attorney Steven Feldman, van Dam acknowledged that Danielle occasionally walked to other locations in the neighborhood and that Westerfield had parked his motorhome on the street for such long periods of time that she and others considered it an eyesore. Danielle's hair and fingerprints were found in the motorhome after her disappearance, Dusek said in his opening statement on Tuesday. Feldman has argued that Danielle could have gotten into the motorhome on other occasions. Brenda van Dam also acknowledged that she and friends drank and smoked marijuana at her home the night before Danielle disappeared, but she denied that she and her husband had ever hosted "sex parties" that could have let strangers become familiar with the layout of their house. Disputed time of deathBrenda van Dam's testimony came after Feldman challenged the county medical examiner's estimate of when Danielle van Dam died.Dr. Brian Blackbourne testified that he estimated Danielle had been dead for at least 10 days and potentially up to six weeks before her body was found. "Just looking at the body, it was clear to me that she had been there for a considerable period of time," Blackbourne said, based on the degree of mummification and putrifaction of the body found off Dehesa Road on Feb. 27. Danielle disappeared Feb. 1. But Feldman questioned Blackbourne's minimum 10-day estimate because the medical examiner had not checked weather reports to find out whether warm weather could have accelerated the decomposition process. "To say that she was dead on the 17th of February, you would have to speculate, wouldn't you?" Feldman asked. "Well, I have evidence on the body, so that's not really speculation," Blackbourne replied. Insect evidence?Blackbourne also acknowledged that forensic entomologist David K. Faulkner from the San Diego Natural History Museum had collected insects found on Danielle's body to help estimate the time of her death.Feldman suggested more evidence would show Danielle hadn't been dead as long as Blackbourne had estimated, proving his client's innocence by showing that she had been killed and her body dumped in Dehesa while Westerfield was under surveillance by police. Blackbourne was testifying on the third day of the murder trial of David Westerfield, the 50-year-old neighbor accused of kidnapping and killing Danielle. Cause of death not establishedBlackbourne testified Wednesday that no cause of death could be established because the body was so badly decomposed and ravaged by animals.He said he ruled that the manner of her death was a homicide as opposed to a suicide or natural causes based on the position of her body, how far it was away from her home and the fact that searchers had been looking for her for three weeks. Under cross-examination by Feldman, Blackbourne said that he couldn't find any signs of traumatic injuries. Blackbourne also testified Thursday that decomposition prevent him from determining whether or not Danielle had been sexually assaulted before her death.
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So very true !!!
So if the State is continuing to pay a "pricey" attorney, to defend Feldman, then I say, "so what?"..
I mean, it isn't like Feldman is defending a criminal behind bars, who draws some sluggo State paid attorney who doesn't give a rats butt if they sit there or rot.
Feldman is an excellent attorney, and gets paid the big bucks because of it. I'm comfortable with this...no envey on my part.
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