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NBA Voodoo: David Stern Fixes the Playoffs
A Different Drummer ^ | 5 June 2002 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 06/04/2002 7:37:53 AM PDT by mrustow

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To: mrustow
As a Sacramento Kings fan I concur completely.

We had the better team, there was no doubt to any objective viewer that this was the case.

But being in a "small market" I knew we were doomed from the start. We will never be able to give up the huge TV ratings that an LA series would generate.

More than anything else, I feel like we were robbed of a real chance to show what we have.

I guess the hardest part was trying to explain to my kids the difference in enforcing the rules. That there are fouls called for the Kings and a different set of standards for the Lakers.

A bad position for a Father to be in I think...

Cheers,

knews hound

21 posted on 06/04/2002 7:59:08 AM PDT by knews_hound
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To: kellynla
Just shows how wrong you are.

You could put a bunch of punks from any court in America on the floor with an NBA team and if the refs call the game in the punks favor they have the advantage.

If you don't believe it's fixed then I'd like you to bet me on some wrestling matches.

22 posted on 06/04/2002 7:59:14 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sorry Ernest. I usually agree with you but the Kings had every opportunity to beat the Lakers including a majority of the foul calls in game 4 which kept them in the series and they couldn't put them away on their own home court in game 7. The Kings "choked!"
23 posted on 06/04/2002 7:59:34 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: cinFLA
Its amazing how Webber and he rest of the Kings disapeared in the 4th quarter and overtime. If it wasn't for Bibby the Lakers would have won by 15 points. Usually its the Lakers who look thin with Shaq and Kobe doing all the scoring.
24 posted on 06/04/2002 8:01:09 AM PDT by caa26
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To: RightFighter
Block or charge?

Bing bing. Those are the rules that have garaunteed NBA officiating will be a joke forever. Anytime you see a guy with the ball run over a guy defending his teams key both rules are violated. Right of way goes to the highest salary. First thing the NBA needs to do is clean up its rule book to get rid of common situation where both teams can get called, then they need to fire all their officials because they suck even in the rare instance when the rule book is clear. Then kill David Stern, not that I think any of this is really his fault, he just irritates me on a general level.

25 posted on 06/04/2002 8:03:37 AM PDT by discostu
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To: dead
I have to agree. To fix such a thing will involve a number of people, and someone will talk. Look at the Black Sox scandal - it got out, and this was before the days of CNN, ESPN, and the internet!

Conspiracy theories will abound, but there must be a smoking gun for me to believe any of `em.

26 posted on 06/04/2002 8:03:45 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: mrustow
I don't think the NBA is fixed--I think it is broken and needs fixing.

Or if it isn't broken, it needs to be.

The quality of the officiating is pathetic. It was only the inconsistancy of calling in game 6 that led to the Lakers even making it to game 7.

Those refs may not be "on the take", but they are not professional calibre and regardless of the talent of the Lakers, had the refs not called as they called, the Lakers would be the ones crying in their suds.

27 posted on 06/04/2002 8:04:01 AM PDT by twntaipan
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To: mountaineer
Isn't Rod Thorn the Nets' GM, and wasn't he the NBA's Director of Officials before? I can see where people could get suspicious -
28 posted on 06/04/2002 8:08:18 AM PDT by fury86
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To: Bikers4Bush
wrestling is not a sport...it is entertainment...hellooooooooooo...fake hits, fake falls, everything is fake...and you still have not answered my question...ever put on the uniform and played the game?
29 posted on 06/04/2002 8:09:11 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
That was the point of saying just how wrong you are. I played through high school slick and have seen my fair share of poorly officiated games that had a negative impact on one team or another.
30 posted on 06/04/2002 8:10:38 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: ZGuy
Either this article is a joke or the author knows nothing about basketball. Each and very paragraph is full of inaccuracies, distortions, or downright lies.

First of all the Lakers have won no threepeat. I doubt that the Nets will give LA much trouble, but just as the Kings did and the Sixers last year, the Lakers are vulnerable to an athletic team that moves the ball and can shoot from every spot on the floor. The trophy isn't handed out until the games are won.

Whatever David Stern wants, he gets, riggggght! How many of you really believe he DIDN"T want a Boston vs. LA match up? Come on now, let's see a show of hands!

Game 6, bad calls huh? Every time a Laker was touched, there was a foul? Like the drive Kobe made for a reverse dunk and Webber GRABBED HIS ARM and made the ball fly straight up. Oh yeah, there was no call on that play. Never mind. How about all those touches on the arm by Bibby every time a Laker took a shot? Oh yeah, no calls there either.

Did this guy cry in all the other games when the Kings got way more calls? I guess that's OK since after all they were the more aggressive team, right? Was he screaming like I was when Vlade GRABBED SHAQ BY THE JERSEY and no call was made? I think not.

Now we come to the part where this guy really shows his ignorance. On the inbounds play where Bibby got his nose whacked, Bibby was using the classic move a guard tries in desperate situations. Position yourself in front of your man, force a collision, and pull the offensive player toward you to make it look like a charge. The right call would have been a foul BEFORE THE BALL WAS INBOUNDED, resulting in free throws for LA plus the ball out of bounds! But this guy is too dumb to know it. Look at the replay and you'll see Bibby's right arm wrap around Kobe's back. Anybody's who's played the game could spot it a mile away.

Next we get into the funny stuff. Yeah, Jerry West "tampered" with O'Neal. He never had any thoughts of leaving the Magic till that wicked man, who's profile just happens to be the NBA logo, put evil thoughts in his head. Then comes the capper- Jordan never caught a break from the ref's. I guess this guy's never heard of "Jordan rules".

If the Nets, however unlikely, manage to beat LA for the title it will not be because the series is fixed, it will be because they play better and want it more, the same way the Lakers beat the Kings.

31 posted on 06/04/2002 8:11:38 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: kellynla
And considering that being from LA you're obviously rooting for the lakers and the fact that I'm from the midwest and could care less about either team it's pointless to argue with someone who's biased.
33 posted on 06/04/2002 8:13:40 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Semper Paratus
Ok, but did Stern tell the Kings to go 1 for 20 on 3 points or miss 16 of 27 free throws in game 7?

C'mon. Don't let the facts get in the way of these nutjobs conspiracy theories.

34 posted on 06/04/2002 8:14:22 AM PDT by wi jd
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Don't forget Webber grabbing Horry's forearm in Game 6 causing a turnover, no foul called.

I agree that Jordan received favorable officiating, but I believe the "Jordan Rules" was the defense the Piston's "Bad Boys" used to shut him down in the early 90's.

35 posted on 06/04/2002 8:18:17 AM PDT by wi jd
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To: twntaipan
It was only the inconsistancy of calling in game 6 that led to the Lakers even making it to game 7.

Well, if the refs would have correctly waved off Somaki Walker's three pointer before half time in Game 4, we wouldn't have seen game six or seven. Game 6 was just too obvious that the refs were instructed to make it go to seven games. Even the looks on the Kings player's and owner's faces after game 7 said "we were robbed". I feel bad for them.

36 posted on 06/04/2002 8:19:08 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: knews_hound
"small market" is that why Boston has more championships than LA and NY combined...another "expert" who does not know what he/she is talking about...your Kings "choked" I saw more bricks thrown in game 7 than are on my house and Divac should get a SAG card for all the "flops" he would make a better actor than a basketball player...quit whining and accept the loss.
37 posted on 06/04/2002 8:19:40 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Go back and read the entire article, not just every other word, and we'll talk.
38 posted on 06/04/2002 8:21:03 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: WORLD SUCKELS USAS BREAST
Let me ask,if they are supposed to be so coordinated and so tough how come they fall down when someone brushes their jersay?? They roll around like a fish out of water. They can jump 4 feet in the air and spin, but wabble when the opponent's shoelace flicks the other guy.

I suspect that if Shaq butt bumped you, you would fly accross the court. Shaq's body makes it impossible for him to play in accordance with the rules. He thinks the rules should be bent for him because of this. I say he shouldn't even be in the league.

39 posted on 06/04/2002 8:22:05 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: mrustow
How "bad" was the officiating that "cost" the Kings the series?

The Lakers had 177 fouls called on them during the series while the Kings had 174 called on them. Oh, wait a minute, that CAN'T be true, can it?

Yep, blame the series loss on terrible foul SHOOTING by the Kings, as well as their choke-down-the-stretch field-goal shooting.

40 posted on 06/04/2002 8:23:02 AM PDT by Henchster
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