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LewRockwell.com and the Annoying Paleos
Punch The Bag ^ | 29 May, 2002

Posted on 06/03/2002 8:54:23 AM PDT by Texaggie79

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To: from occupied ga
Don't get your head too near any pins it might pop.

Like I said, I don't want to get banned...

101 posted on 06/03/2002 11:19:16 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Poohbah
Which one is it? Either you're familiar with their content, or you're not.

I've visited it a number of times, usually because I was referred there by a link from somewhere else. I found many of their articles about limited government right on, but didn't care for the occassional Abe Lincoln /the South was right stuff that seems popular with a certain element over there. I tend to be more of a Ron Paul kind of guy.

102 posted on 06/03/2002 11:19:49 AM PDT by northernwilson
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To: northernwilson
OK, you need to read the rest of the site. Sobran can be expected to regurgitate the Palestinian talking points du jour, there are some folks who say that the Constitution is fascist and should be replaced with...well, nothing, and the beat goes on...all this under the imprimatur of Lew Rockwell. If he didn't agree with the viewpoint, he wouldn't let it be stuck out there with his name on it.
103 posted on 06/03/2002 11:22:06 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Texaggie79
Tha National Socialists were socialists. Why would anyone think they weren't?
104 posted on 06/03/2002 11:25:20 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Poohbah
Sobran can be expected to regurgitate

I happen to have alot of respect for Sobran. I don't care much for the Likudnics in the current Israeli government, nor do I think it in American interests to support them in their orgy of theocratic nationalism. Just leave us (and our money) out of that intractable mess.Crackpot theology makes bad foreign policy

105 posted on 06/03/2002 11:50:17 AM PDT by northernwilson
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To: northernwilson
I happen to have alot of respect for Sobran.

Very well; I have no respect for you, then.

106 posted on 06/03/2002 11:51:27 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: rdb3
"This proud neo-conservative believes in the [Constitution] as it is written..."

Really? Then why the rant about rolling with the times? By bashing paleos and affirming your neo-con status, you are aligning yourself with the modern "conservatives" of the Republican Party, and it is sickeningly clear that the GOP has adopted a "living, breathing document" view of the Constitution. How else can you explain the steps the current administration has taken? The Patriot Act. The federalization of airport security. Refusing to arm pilots. Billions of dollars more in education spending. Billions more in farm subsidies. Amnesty for illegal aliens. Are these examples of your precious new conservatism? If so, count me out.

"Rockwell, Sobran, DiLorenzo, I spit on all of them.....The others can go to hell."

Fortunately, your spit is no more vile or offensive than the bilge spewed from the mouths of Washington politicians. You also lack the authority to condemn me or others like me to hell. So, as long as I can exercise my freedom of speech to offend "conservatives" such as yourself, I'll be happy.....at least until the neo-cons figure out some way of by-passing the First Amendment.

107 posted on 06/03/2002 11:53:33 AM PDT by sheltonmac
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To: Aurelius
Ok, a respectable source, as in a person, then. Name me one.
108 posted on 06/03/2002 11:55:05 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: northernwilson
If I can find an article about it, that hasn't been pulled from FR, I'll pass it over.
109 posted on 06/03/2002 11:57:55 AM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: northernwilson
I'm a supporter of Ron Paul, even though I disagree with him on foreign policy. I wish LR wouldn't associate with the guy.
110 posted on 06/03/2002 12:00:30 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Tribune7
I think he was pointing out that it seemed as though the fact that they were socialists was far more evil than their Nazi beliefs.
111 posted on 06/03/2002 12:01:49 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: AmishDude, texaggie79
Call me Ishmael, but I remember reading that both were funded from the same bank account.

The largest funding source is one Burton Blumert, a non-Zionist Jew, BTW.

112 posted on 06/03/2002 12:11:55 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: Poohbah; rdb3; aculeus
"I'll take Ezra Pound wannabes for $800."
113 posted on 06/03/2002 12:11:58 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Texaggie79
I'm a supporter of Ron Paul, even though I disagree with him on foreign policy

I'm not quite as isolationist as some in that camp, but the neocons appear to think it is our government's duty to meddle in every conflict there is in the world. There's no doubt we needed to go after Bin Laden, but we're going to go bankrupt financing every ill-advised military intervention that the neocons and their democratic sisters dream up. What ever happened to the 'peace dividend' we were promised after we defeated the Soviet Union? This war without end that some in the Bush administration keep pushing is a little too Orwellian for my tastes.

114 posted on 06/03/2002 12:15:11 PM PDT by northernwilson
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To: Texaggie79
Your antagonism to the Old South obviously dominates your thinking. Your long post is replete with that bias. Yet how can anyone define true American Conservatism, without respect for the one Region which more than any other kept the beacon of traditional values alive? It would be interesting to see you define Conservatism without appreciating the values of the Old South. As the South is also the region with the greatest percentage of rooted Americans, you could only do so by fantasizing about American values without Americans.

Your bias also shows, when you address foreign affairs. Consider this line:

I get a kick out of The Nazis were Socialists headline--as if that is the worst thing you can call those who gave us the Holocaust (and WWII).

Of course the point is that the Nazis whole approach to European politics reflected their socialist roots. Their targeting of German Jews, as the scapegoat on their path to power, as an obvious example, was taken directly from Karl Marx and other 19th Century German Socialists. (See The Cult Of "The Holocaust"--Golden Calf Of The Twentieth Century.) As for their starting World War II, that was simply their version of the endemic Socialist pursuit of international power. It was only launched after they entered into a temporary alliance with Bolshevik Russia.

Socialist values, methodology and compulsions, provided the Nazis with their whole reason for existence. If you fail to understand that, you have missed the forest of the 1930s for the trees that the Left would rather you focus on.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

115 posted on 06/03/2002 12:15:36 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Texaggie79
"Ok, a respectable source, as in a person, then. Name me one."

Well, there's Burt Blumert; he is listed in the article that you posted.

"In 1983 Rudy was appointed US Attorney for the Southern District of New York. His record 4,152 convictions with a mere 25 reversals is a testament to his zeal for the job."

"Giuliani did not accumulate this glittering record on behalf of the citizens of the Southern District. He was motivated purely by political ambition."

"As a prosecutor he employed ruthless tactics such as seizing prominent stockbrokers and traders from the floor of the exchanges and dragging them away in handcuffs with the television cameras already in place and rolling."

"In his most famous case, against stock market innovator Michael Milken of Drexel Burnham, Giuliani used the threat of the Racketeering-Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act (RICO) statutes – which were so draconian that Milken had no choice but to make a deal with the federal government".

Another tyranical practice that Guiliani instituted in New York was the confiscation of automobiles of people - not convicted, of drunk driving. It's true that the dice are heavily loaded against a person who has been arrested for drunk driving, but for the sake of appearance, at least, the automobile shouldn't be confiscated before the conviction.

116 posted on 06/03/2002 12:18:38 PM PDT by Aurelius
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To: northernwilson
Well, unless you want every freedom loving person to all cram in this country, I think promotion of democracy and liberty across the globe is nothing but for our own self interest.
117 posted on 06/03/2002 12:19:29 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Aurelius
People arrested, not convicted.
118 posted on 06/03/2002 12:21:22 PM PDT by Aurelius
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To: Aurelius
You use a LR link as a respectable reference? Shall I link to PETA for a good critique of steak houses?
119 posted on 06/03/2002 12:23:14 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: rdb3; sheltonmac
[Sheltonmac] The battle cry of the neo-conservative. (Translation: The Constitution is a living, breathing document.)

[rdb3] You are a flat-out liar. Show me one neo who believes this. Just one!

Liberals believe in using the coercive power of the federal government to advance the liberal agenda. Neocons believe in using the coercive power of the federal government to advance the neocon agenda. Kristol's philosophy of "national greatness conservatism" should be sufficient to demonstrate this.

If the Constitution happens to agree with a particular agenda item, call it serendipity.

Tim

120 posted on 06/03/2002 12:27:28 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative
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