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But What About African America's Debt?
PipeBombNews.com ^ | June 3, 2002 | William A. Mayer, Editor & Publisher PipeBombNews.com

Posted on 06/03/2002 6:39:18 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic

But What About African America’s Debt?

By William A. Mayer, Editor & Publisher

We have recently been subjected to a lot of noise regarding the prickly issue of reparations, money to be paid to the offspring of the American slave experience – as little as two weeks ago California Governor Gray Davis established common cause with the most extreme forces in this movement.

Leaders from Jessie Jackson to Kweisi Mfume have demanded that, because of the despicable nature of slavery, money must change hands in similar manner to the plus $1 billion that was paid to square the moral account regarding the Japanese internment during WWII.

A little mining of the historical record reveals that the first Black slaves were brought to America in 1619 and the practice of keeping humans on this continent as legally provided for chattel continued until 1865 – a time span of 246 years.

Until Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, the history of humanity - as far back as records exist - is commingled with an element of slavery.

The Bible acknowledges its existence, as does the Quran. It existed at the height of Greek achievement and throughout the Roman Empire.

Slavery was omnipresent, and not just Black slavery, as Caucasian slaves – especially the musically gifted and comely women - from as far away as Russian Georgia, were sold into slavery throughout the Ottoman Empire.

For 600 years, in the period before the arrival of the Europeans, it was the Islamic world that established the slave trading routes which laced across the African continent – slaves either captured in raids or paid to various sultans as tribute, as was the case in the African Nubian kingdom.

The aforementioned history lesson is not offered as a defense against the indefensible - it is a simple statement of fact - against which our little essay plays.

What was life like as a “free” African?

The short answer was, pretty horrendous, like much of the rest of the world at that time, however Africa was afflicted with a killer combination of inhospitable climates and traditional deadly maladies of malaria, tuberculosis, pneumonia and diarrheal disease which made life especially precarious.

Tribal warfare also was an ever-present danger, one only has to examine the brief brutal history of Shaka Zulu and his bloody campaigns against his neighbors and finally his own increasingly malevolent actions against his own people which resulted in his assassination at the hands of his half brothers.

Life in much of Africa is still very hard today, probably harder in comparison with the rest of the world than was the case before the arrival of the Europeans.

Savage tribal warfare still exists [Hutus and Tutsis for example] now empowered by modern weaponry, totalitarian dictatorships abound, and then there is the terrible additional burden of AIDS which has reduced average life expectancy in Africa to less than 50 years – the worst, by far, in the world.

So we are left this contrast between a very hard “old world” and a seemingly even harsher “new world”

Some additional facts to put this in perspective:

Was life as a slave hard?

Absolutely, but so was life in rural America.

Was the life of the average slave one of brutalization?

Not necessarily.

Slaves were valuable property and a very important part of the means of production, certainly brutality existed, but mistreatment made as little sense as the abuse of anything instrumental to putting bread on the table.

Does this ignore the moral dimension of owning another human, no, but it is important to look at this objectively.

Historical revisionism aside, the de-facto result of the Civil War was the death of American slavery, the price?

558,000 killed, 375,000 wounded, that is 933,000 either killed or wounded - approximately 1 out of every 20 Americans living at the time - a staggering figure.

And the economic price was also unfathomable - $5.2 billion [in 1990 dollars] expended.

Now, in today's multi-trillion dollar economy $5.2 billion seems like chump change, but consider the fact that in 1860 the entire Federal Budget was only $74,000,000. As further perspective understand that in 1861 our entire national debt was $90,581,000 and that by 1866 it had swelled to $2,773,236,000 - totally as a result of the war.

Taken together the Civil War cost over 70 times what the, then current, federal budget expenditure figure was. It increased the national debt by a factor of 3000% in 5 years!

The grimmest consideration regarding the above statistics is that they do not include the loss of earning power to families from the dead and wounded, the terrible property destruction, the loss in civil liberties [Habeas Corpus, for example] which were necessary to prosecute the war, and the inflationary destabilizing effects brought about by the huge expenditures - not to mention the very real and bitter hurt still felt, palpably and predominantly, in the South because of the war.

Enough about this mostly distant past - fast forward to the ‘50s and ‘60s, a time of revived concern over the status of Black Americans, especially in the South under oppressive jack-booted Democrat administrations.

The development of the modern Civil Rights movement is fascinating and wholly in keeping with the inherent goodness of the American people – in this case Blacks and concerned Whites joining hands to battle the vestiges of established, codified racialism, namely segregation and anti-Black poll practices.

The Civil Rights Act, passed by the power of Republican idealism, promised a color blind society, and close on the heels of this pivotal piece of legislation came Lyndon Johnson’s mammoth Great Society, firmly establishing the big government, top down, command economy model - yet another propitiation offered at the footstep slavery.

The price tag of the Great Society is still being computed, as many of the inefficient feel good programs created in its wake still exist - let's take a conservative figure, say $6 Trillion dollars – which just happens to be the size of our current national debt. Now of course not all of it represents direct transfer payments to Black America but it is hard to envision this huge alphabet soup concoction getting passed without the moralistic fervor surrounding the desire to finally put slavery behind us.

So what validity do the claims of modern day race baiters have?

Not much in our opinion.

America's moral outrage destroyed, once and for all, the underpinnings of slavery worldwide. There is simply no historical equivalent, anywhere in the world, to the effort that has been made to address the wrongs of slavery in the United States.

We have shed the blood of nearly 1 million combatants, ordered federal troops into racial "hot-spots", supported far-reaching legislation, given preferences based on color to those who were seen as victims of slavery, spent probably in excess of $6 trillion dollars in a vain attempt to improve their quality of life, all in an effort to make amends.

The most poverty stricken African American lives like a prince compared to his peers in Africa - his standard of living is much elevated as is access to health care, education and all of the opportunities afforded all in this great free land. He never has to deal with being hacked to death but a warring Tutsi or contracting Ebola.

His chances of being eaten alive by a lion or a crocodile are nill, and even if poor - a relative term - he still most likely owns two color television sets and a car.

The response?

An ever present bitching - ingratitude to a degree that would be unthinkable were it not for our constantly being reminded of it by shucking and jiving pimps who use it for self promotion and as a fundraising tool. An entire industry has been created out of it allowing hucksters to blackmail US corporations for millions.

No currently living American has personally suffered the ill effects of slavery, no currently living American has ever owned a slave and the majority of slave importation took place over 250 years ago, what's going on here?

How far back do you go?

To the Neanderthals who were shoved aside by the more wily Cro Magnon?

Once you embark down that road, there is no stopping and it is obvious that despite unprecedented efforts to assuage what are now only the hurt feelings of people who have been programmed to view themselves solely as victims the effort has fallen on ears deafened by hate - hate engendered by the likes of married faux "Reverends" who impregnate staff members then use tax exempt funds to shut them up.

Spare me…please.

The time has long past for the majority in this society to tell these relatively few but vocal charlatans to shut the hell up and start working for it like everyone else - the price has been paid in extremis - you owe us!

© 2002, PipeBombNews, all rights reserved.



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; civilwar; reparations; whiteguilt
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To: johnqueuepublic
Wish I could be more specific but I heard it back in school. Of course the spin they gave it was "evil white Europeans trading human beings for trinkets."
21 posted on 06/03/2002 8:58:23 AM PDT by Squawk 8888
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To: johnqueuepublic
BTTT!
22 posted on 06/03/2002 9:00:46 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: johnqueuepublic
Not sure which post you referred to, but my source for the legality of slavery in Saudi Arabia was the Toronto Star. In a background item a few months ago they stated, "Slavery was banned on the Arabian Peninsula in 1964."
23 posted on 06/03/2002 9:01:48 AM PDT by Squawk 8888
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To: Squawk 8888
I really dont think that can be substantiated, most slaves were not sold into slavery by their own tribes, imho.
24 posted on 06/03/2002 9:55:15 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: woodman
Bump for later reading.
25 posted on 06/03/2002 10:35:14 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: johnqueuepublic
But What About African America’s Debt?

*By now, haven't reparations for slavery and the royalties due to the descendants of the Caucasian Dr. James Naismith, for inventing basketball, canceled each other out?

26 posted on 06/03/2002 10:35:58 AM PDT by SantosLHalper
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To: johnqueuepublic
those who deserve compensation are those who died to free the slaves, and their ingrate spawn.
27 posted on 06/03/2002 10:38:40 AM PDT by galt-jw
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To: SantosLHalper
Ah, good point ... but those asking for reparations are too lazy, too stupid and too short to play the game apparently.
28 posted on 06/03/2002 10:40:05 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: johnqueuepublic
Personnally, I think criminal slavery should be re-introduced. Instead of sending someone to 5 years in a "club fed" - put their 5 year contract on the auction block. Buyers of the contracts would have the right to require any legal work from the prisoner. Then prevent any lawsuits or penalities against the contract owners for any treatment during the contract period. Contract owners would be required to provide food, water, clothing appropriate to the conditions, sanitation, a place to rest and 6 hours of sleep per day. Five years in a sugar cane field or hoeing weeds in a farmers field during a Kansas summer just might convince the con to not return to a life of crime. Proceeds of the sale would go to the treasury.

I know it would never happen. That there would be a lot of details that would need to be worked out. And that the idea would be attacked by the bleeding harts - but - it is allowed under the constitution.

Amendment XIII - Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

29 posted on 06/03/2002 10:49:58 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: johnqueuepublic
Great post. Thank you Sir.
30 posted on 06/03/2002 10:52:15 AM PDT by hoot33
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To: mhking
Thanks for the ping.

If America has no debt to Blacks for slavery then Blacks have no debt to America. Call it an even deal and everybody on both sides shut up about it.

31 posted on 06/03/2002 11:02:31 AM PDT by mafree
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To: mafree
Sound fair to me.
32 posted on 06/03/2002 11:36:53 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: hoot33
Thanks
33 posted on 06/03/2002 11:43:12 AM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
Slaves were valuable property and a very important part of the means of production, certainly brutality existed, but mistreatment made as little sense as the abuse of anything instrumental to putting bread on the table.

Here's an excerpt from a well-researched textbook used in colleges until Political Correctness idiots gained power and now suppresed. Slaves were valuable property, but the Irish were expendabe. I want reparations!

A History of the South
Fourth Edition
Alfred A. Knopf 1947, 1953, 1963, 1972
Francis Butler Simkins and Charles Pierce Roland
P. 125-126

Abolitionist assertions that the bondsmen (slaves) were frequently inadequately clothed, underfed, and driven to death are economically unreasonable. Masters wished to preserve the health and life of their slaves because a sick Negro was a liability and a dead Negro was worth nothing. A rough plenty prevailed on the average plantation. “The best preventive of theft is plenty of pork,” was the advice of a Virginian.

Slaves probably fared as well in the enjoyment of the necessities of life as did most of the free laborers of the country. One of the most respected of all Northern critics of slavery, Frederick Law Olmsted, wrote that the Southern bondsmen lived in quarters quite as adequate as those of most mill or mine workers elsewhere, and that the slaves were perhaps the best fed “proletarian class” in the world. He also testified that they worked less than did free laborers.

Incomplete statistics reveal that the slaves averaged somewhat higher sickness and death rates per thousand than did Southern whites as a whole. But the slaves were from all indications as healthy and long-lived as white common laborers in the United States before the Civil War. It was general knowledge at the time in Louisiana that the slaves were better off in these respects than were the thousands of Irish immigrant laborers engaged in clearing land and digging drainage canals on the sugar plantations. The planters were reluctant to commit their expensive chattels to this dangerous work, but preferred to hire free laborers, whose loss by death, sickness, or injury cost nothing. A careful study of the figures on a group of 875 plantation slaves whose records are preserved indicates their average life expectancy at the time of birth to have been longer than that of the general population of such cities as New York, Boston, and Philadelphia during the same period. An authority on urban slavery concludes that the medical care, health, and welfare of slaves in Southern cities were superior to the care, health, and welfare of the free Negroes; and the outstanding work on the life of Negroes in the North at this time shows that they fared no better in such matters than did free blacks in the land of slavery.

34 posted on 06/03/2002 11:56:20 AM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: taxcontrol
Amendment 13 has been interpreted as to mean that once convicted, they may either be forced to work in prison or forced to do community service. Not argueing with you. Both of these are done, however, it has been basically stated that this is a governemt right. A little scary when you think about, technically, and constitutionally, if you commit a crime, the government can make you a slave to work for it. This is the underlying basis for community service, which ironically is usually for small crimes.
35 posted on 06/03/2002 12:35:53 PM PDT by Sonny M
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To: PoisedWoman
Excellent, was not aware of the details made know in your citation.
36 posted on 06/03/2002 1:32:03 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: Sonny M
Slavery has been abolished by the 13th Amendment, involuntary servitude can only be imposed via:

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

The "...except..." part modifies involuntary servitude, ie. prison. Slavery is outlawed, you will never find a con law professor to agree to your interpretation.

37 posted on 06/03/2002 1:39:45 PM PDT by johnqueuepublic
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To: johnqueuepublic
Bump for an interesting thread.

If you're interested in Slavery, you might also want to read the interesting book, Cane River, by Lalita Tademe, a former high-tech exec who wrote the history of her family as slaves in Louisiana. Slaves were slaves and did plenty of work, according to this book, but they were to a certain extent integrated into the families that owned them and were not treated miserably.

I got the book I cited earlier, A History of the South, at eBay for a couple of dollars. It's an excellent textbook.

38 posted on 06/04/2002 8:05:40 AM PDT by PoisedWoman
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