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1 posted on 06/01/2002 10:11:55 AM PDT by lyonesse
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Interesting that the author thinks Germany and France have been holding Russia at bay in Nato. Is this true?
2 posted on 06/01/2002 10:19:51 AM PDT by Ranger
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4 posted on 06/01/2002 11:03:15 AM PDT by Free the USA
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China or the USA? Where's the comparison. Hope this is not indicative of India's pipe dreams about the much ballyhooed Asia, RUssiaChinaIndia alliance. I hope this type of claptrap in the Indian mindset would have died with the 1962 Chinese invasion. Yes, India and China could have increased trade, but going against the US is madness; if this is what the CongressParty has in store for india, it would be a strategic disaster especially with the rapidly expanding recent USIndia cooperation.
5 posted on 06/01/2002 11:11:35 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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At this point, I'm going to go out on a limb and say I'm reasonably sure it'll be "Russia-America"

India is still pretty much an an "IF", overall, and China....well....I'm not willing to catagorize China yet.

6 posted on 06/01/2002 11:17:32 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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Yet another Indian nationalist moron with a vision of the world in complete disconnection with reality. For example, his comments on France and Germany trying to block Russia are nonsense. He should pay more attention to the insane level of poverty of his compatriots before getting embroiled in his geopolitical fantasies and alliance games. India may be a huge country in demographic terms, but for the moment it is first and foremeost one of the poorest countries of its continent.
7 posted on 06/01/2002 12:38:16 PM PDT by zefrog
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... the Yeltsin years, when the Mafia ruled in Moscow and was manipulated by external
interests into compromising national interests in exchange for protection abroad. Today, [Russia] is on track to restoring its superpower status...

In your dreams, Sahib.  Firstly, don't think
your attempt to switch your Cold War ally
from Communist to Mafia is successful.  India's
willingness to sell out the West for rubles is
not forgotten.  Secondly, Russia's economic strength
is about that of the Netherlands.  Superpower
she ain't, and won't be for decades, if ever again.
But, hey, you hitched your wagon to the wrong
star before, so be my guest.

8 posted on 06/01/2002 1:22:48 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: lyonesse; LenS; swarthyguy; cake_crumb; zefrog; gcruse; JimRic54
Russia, China, and India will never form a permanent alliance. Their spheres of interest and influence overlap too much. At best they will be wary temporary allies. At worst they will fight bloody wars with one another, in pairs or altogether. At present China and Russia are fighting border wars. China and India are also fighting border wars. Foremost is the Kashmir region which also involves Pakistan. Russia and India do not fight directly because they have no common border. However, they continue to spar with each other for influence in the region.

The US would be foolish to involve itself in the game these three are playing. We could never field a military that would make much of a dent there. Instead, the US will remain a periphery player. It will tip the balance from one to another and will attempt to keep all three occupied with regional interests while the US remains a global power.

Individually, the three countries are all on the verge of internal collapse. Russia is still fragmenting after the Soviet collapse. It will likely split into a European country west of the Urals and at least two countries to the east of the Urals. India has never been a stable country since independence from Britain. It is an imaginary country created by the British. Unresolved are the problems between Hindu and Muslim and ethnic groups. The caste system is also causing problems. It will likely split at least into north and south with a minor country east of Bangladesh. China over extended by absorbing Tibet and the Muslim Xinjiang in the West. Ironically, it is likely to lose these as it improves its standard of living. It will also experience massive illegal immigration as the standard of living improves beyond that of its immediate neighbors. China is unlikely to survive the 21st century intact.

There are no threats in this area for the US to worry over.

10 posted on 06/01/2002 6:48:46 PM PDT by jadimov
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It is indeed a quandry for India and Russia, particularly Russia. These two have a huge gorilla sitting between them, one that is getting stronger every day. Russia has two things the Chinese want, space and oil. India has nothing to offer China in those areas, however any country with a billion people is a concern to China.

It will indeed be interesting to see what the final allignment will be.

13 posted on 06/02/2002 8:23:07 AM PDT by cynicom
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