[yendu bwam]

Have we become so stupid that we don't know that words like 'mankind' refer to all humanity? And when one starts to make wholesale changes, as they have here, changes will have been made which do indeed neutralize (neuterize) phrases which were meant to be masculine. This is truly tampering with God's word. No one should buy or obtain this Bible who wants an accurate rendering of that word. This would truly be one of the most farcical projects, were that it not so potentially damaging.

[RAT Patrol]

I won't be buying the new version. I will go back to reading my New American Standard version in fact. Not that I won't keep my NIV's, but it will not be my translation of choice anymore.

To each their own, but I'm opting out of supporting the old NIV.

[Brandybux]

At the TNIV Response Center you will find an opportunity to protest the creation and promotion of premier religous feminist Bible that is being foisted on an uninformed evangelical public by Zondervan and the International Bible Society.

In addition to the protest form available there (Freeping encouraged), you will find links to the following:

• 37 Leading Scholars Say They Cannot Endorse the TNIV
• 900+ Inaccuracies in the TNIV
• Concise List of TNIV Inaccuracies With Explanations
• Response To Open Letter Issued by the Translators and Publisher
• Response to Zondervan's Explanations of the Changes Made in the TNIV
• What's Wrong With Gender Neutral Bible Translations?
• Speak Up! Contact the TNIV Translators and Publisher (let 'em know up close and personal!)

[ZGuy]

PRESS RELEASE
Issued Tuesday May 28, 2002 by
The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood

100 Christian Leaders Cannot Endorse the TNIV

100 Christian leaders have issued a joint statement that claims they cannot endorse Today’s New International Version (TNIV) that is produced by Zondervan publishers and the International Bible Society.

Citing that the TNIV goes beyond acceptable translation standards in several important respects these leaders emphasize the fact that the TNIV obscures many biblical references to "father," "son," "brother," and "man." In order to accomplish this, translators of the TNIV have inserted English words into the text whose meaning does not appear in the original languages.

The result is that in hundreds of verses, the TNIV changes language with masculine meaning in the original Greek to something more generic.

The list of signatories includes: Ted Baehr, Alistair Begg, Ron Blue, Larry Burkett, Charles Colson, Nancy Leigh DeMoss, James Dobson, Tom Eliff, Steve Farrar, Wayne Grudem, Jack Hayford, Joshua Harris, Howard Hendricks, David Jeremiah, D. James Kennedy, Crawford Lorritts, Erwin Lutzer, Bill McCartney, James Merritt, R. Albert Mohler, Jr., Marvin Olasky, Stephen Olford, J. I. Packer, Janet Parshall, Paige Patterson, John Piper, Dennis Rainey, Pat Robertson, Gary and Barbara Rosberg, R. C. Sproul, Charles Swindoll, Joni Erickson Tada, Don Wildmon, and Bruce Wilkinson.

Randy Stinson, Executive Director of The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood says, "This list reveals the depth and breadth of the Evangelical resistance to the TNIV. These leaders represent various types of ministries, denominations, and theological persuasions, but all have a passionate concern about the Bible and the translation process. We are hopeful that Zondervan and the International Bible Society will reconsider and make the necessary changes so that the TNIV will conform to the Colorado Springs Guidelines which were designed to govern the translation of gender-related language."

When asked about the reasons for such a statement, Stinson remarked, "This translation has plunged the evangelical world into a crucial decision-making process that will affect the future direction of Bible translation in the English speaking world and will determine for years to come what kinds of Bibles will be commonly accepted as the preaching, teaching, devotional, memorizing Bibles of the church."

For the full statement of concern along with the complete list of signatories, visit the Website of The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood at http://www.cbmw.org.

Also see related post here

[3catsanadog]

Where the previous version rendered Hebrews 2:6 as, "What is man that you are mindful of him, the son of man that you care for him?" the TNIV reads," What are mere mortals that you are mindful of them, human beings that you care for them?"

Isn't "son of man" the reference to Jesus Christ? If so, then changing this to "human beings" is eliminating outright the holiness of Jesus Christ and making human beings into gods. This is blasphemy.

[The Grim Freeper]

I recommend the book "If the Foundations Be Destroyed." It lays out, verse by verse, the differences in the King James and the NIV versions. A REAL eye opener. It becomes pretty clear that the NIV is all about eroding the Triune God: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The pattern with the NIV is to deny that Jesus is God.

[jadimov]

There is a version of the Bible written from the Jewish point of view. It contains tranlations from the original Jewish Old Testament texts and Greek New Testament texts. It is very easy to read and has a glossary for Jewish words. The author even includes a large section on translations in general. A friend of mine introduced me to this book which I then bought myself. A search on the web shows its growing influence among Jewish and Christian communities.

This version expresses its original and essential Jewishness. Most other English translations of the New Testament present their message in a Gentile-Christian linguistic, cultural, and theological framework. Yeshua, the Messiah, was a Jew, was born to Jews, grew up among Jews, ministered to Jews, and died and rose from the dead in the Jewish capital.

http://www.innvista.com/scriptures/versions/CJB.htm

Here is the ten commandments as they appear in the Complete Jewish Bible.

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
Complete Jewish Bible
Translation by David H. Stern
Exodus 20:1-17

1. Then God said all these words:
2. "I am ADONAI your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the abode of slavery.
3. "You are to have no other gods before me. 4. You are not to make for yourselves a carved image or any kind of representation of anything in heaven above, on the earth beneath or in the water below the shoreline. 5. You are not to bow down to them or serve them; for I, ADONAI your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sins of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6. but displaying grace to the thousandth generation of those who love me and obey my mitzvot.
7."You are not to use lightly the name of ADONAI your God, because ADONAI will not leave unpunished someone who uses his name lightly.
8."Remember the day Shabbat, to set it apart for God. 9. You have six days to labor and do all your work, 10. but the seventh day is a Shabbat for ADONAI your God. On it, you are not to do any kind of work-not you, your son or your daughter, not your male or female slave, not your livestock, and not the foreigner staying with you inside the gates to your property. 11. For in six days, ADONAI made heaven and earth, the sea and everything in them; but on the seventh day he rested. This is why ADONAI blessed the day, Shabbat, and separated it for himself.
12. "Honor your father and mother, so that you may live long in the land which ADONAI your God is giving you.
13. "Do not murder.
14. "Do not commit adultery.
15. "Do not steal.
16. "Do not give false evidence against your neighbor.
17. "Do not covet your neighbor's house; do not covet your neighbor's wife, his male or female slave, his ox, his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor".

http://www.therain.org/studies/tencjb.html

[drypowder]

Political Correctness now overrides God's word?!!! We're doomed.

[Romulus]

It's a Boy!