Posted on 05/27/2002 11:50:41 AM PDT by madprof98
A 16-year-old boy who is believed to have impregnated his 10-year-old onetime "girlfriend" was spared prison Thursday and placed on probation for one year.
Milwaukee County Children's Court Judge Kevin Martens also ordered the teenager to perform 50 hours of community service and to undergo treatment as a sex offender. The boy pleaded guilty this month to second-degree sexual assault of a child.
Had the boy misbehaved at the shelter where he was ordered to live during the past few months while the case was pending, Martens said, he probably would have been incarcerated.
The judge also expressed concern about a psychological report that indicated the boy had a cavalier attitude toward the wrongfulness of his deed, which Martens described as "reckless and irresponsible."
Assistant District Attorney Cynthia Brown had urged Martens to lock up the boy because the boy did not seem to appreciate the seriousness of his crime.
The psychological report said the boy felt "privileged to have sex with lots of people if he wants to," Brown said.
Brown said the boy also told the girl, whom Brown described as "inexperienced," that "if you like someone and you feel good around them, then you have sex because that's what people do."
The prosecutor also noted that the boy had been found delinquent for underage possession of a dangerous weapon after he accidentally fired a bullet into a neighbor's house around the same time he was involved with the girl.
The boy's defense attorney, Ira Bordow, said it was wrong to characterize the case involving the girl as an "assault" because there was no force involved in the boy's sexual relationship with the girl, whom he considered to be his "girlfriend."
Bordow also contended that the boy was not aware of the girl's true age and that she claimed to be 13. Both the prosecutor and the girl's mother disputed that assertion and said the boy had been made aware that the girl was younger than she claimed.
Brown said that the girl "looked older" but acted very young and that the 16-year-old boy should have known better.
The girl had an abortion shortly after her pregnancy came to light.
In court Thursday, the boy apologized to the victim's mother, who had urged the judge not to be "too severe" in punishing the boy but also to make the teenager understand the consequences of his actions.
Martens imposed and stayed a sentence of one year in a juvenile prison, which means the boy could be incarcerated for that amount of time if he violates the rules of probation.
Martens also ordered the boy to have no contact with the girl or her family and to register as a sex offender.
Appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on May 24, 2002.
But most hideous are parents who don't walk their talk and if they did, their walk would probably be worse than it is now.
I've never seen kids act out who had quality parents. I know it's theoretically possible and I've had many counselor colleagues claim they've seen it. But in every single case, I've always found seriously lacking behavior on the part of at least one parent. And parents who are quality parents can even blow it plenty. But if the majority of the time they live integrity, that's what the kids take on. . . earnestly. . . and usually sooner than later.
The teen rebellion is not mandatory. Individuation yeah--rebellion--not required.
It's widely believed that the modern diet is responsible for this. Hormones are present in milk, cheese and beef which may hasten the onset of puberty. I've also read that girls living with non-blood relatives reach puberty earlier, this is due to phenomes perhaps. Finally, the over sexual culture probably has an effect, IMHO. Early onset puberty does not, generally, make a girl strong enough to bring a child to term. A cesarian would certainly have been needed.
In a word:
Cesarean
First of all, you apparently know nothing about humanism. Humanism is a belief that humans are capable of virtually anything when they act rationally, responsibily and are free to use their potential for good. It is a belief that people should stop thanking God for everything and start patting themselves on the back for their accomplishments. If you are successful, it is because of your talents and hardwork, not because God ordained your success. It is a very egalitarian and simple belief system.
And how are you going to keep humanists from contradicting your religious beliefs in classrooms, in corporations and governments? By force? Your name implies that the use of force to push your beliefs on the whole of society is always an acceptable option to you. Why cannot a humanist tell your kids that abstinence isn't going to keep them from getting aids in reality? That if they have blood transfusion or an organ transplant they have a chance of getting AIDS from that? Why can't humanists suggest that the utilitarian and libertarian ethics are better for running the government than Judao-Christian ethics?
Try this link, from Connecticut.
"BRIDGEPORT -- Residents of the Harborview Towers senior citizen complex Thursday said they were not surprised by the arrest of fellow resident Jimmy Kave, charged with impregnating a 10-year-old girl.
"He always had little girls around him," said one woman, who didn't want to be identified. "We thought it was disgraceful."
On Wednesday, the 75-year-old Kave was charged with multiple counts of first-degree sexual assault, fourth-degree sexual assault and risk of injury to a minor for allegedly having intercourse with the girl several times during a year at his apartment in the East Washington Avenue apartment complex.
The girl, now 11, is six months pregnant and has been taken from her mother's custody by the state Department of Children and Families. The DCF also has launched an investigation into the case.
Kave is being held in lieu of $500,000 bond for arraignment April 30."
or this one. Which includes the following:
"Houston Police are asking for the public's help trying to find a runaway who's eight and half months pregnant. The girl is TEN years old-- and authorities fear she may give birth while on the run. Cindy Garcia apparently posed as a 14-year old applying for welfare benefits.
Authorities moved her to an emergency children's shelter, but Garcia ran away Sunday.
Police think Garcia is heading to Mexico to meet up with her 22-year old boyfriend, believed to be the baby's father.
Authorities think Garcia will have to have a Caesarean section to ensure the safety of the newborn and the 10-year old mother."
or this one, which includes:
"Montel Williams, during his show on November 11, 1999, exclaimed in exasperation, "Why can’t we do something about this?" In this show, he uncovered the details of a pregnant 10-year-old girl, who had been raped several times by the 18-year-old son of her mother’s live-in boyfriend. Although this story may seem unusual and/or fodder for a dramatic Montel Williams show, it is sadly all too common."
One special about Ireland noted how, graveyards from the 19th century and before are littered with tombstones of 25 to 35 year old women (and not just during the famine.)
The program noted that this is an age when most women start experiencing problems giving birth to children,(while they are still fertile) and without the advantages of modern medicine, those difficulties too often proved to be fatal.
Every evil deed has evil repercussions. The innocent suffer as well as the guilty. That is why there is no such thing as a 'harmless immorality.'
I believe in a woman's right to choose. However,
I respect the position of prolifers who are unwaveringly
prolife. Your position has a logical disconnect. In the
case of rape and incest, the unborn infant was not at
fault and endangered no one. Allowing that infant
to be aborted is no different than aborting any other.
The issue is really black and white. Not gray.
Sex with a 10-year old girl is rape (statutory). Throw in the medical complications of a child giving birth to a child and the girl ends up being a victim twice.
Do you feel comfortable with that? Why should she face physical trauma, maybe even death, for the moral beliefs of others?
It sounds like her mother approved the abortion. You want to take the child away from her mother, or do you support parent's rights to make medical descisions for their minor children?
I think the girl desperately needs moral and emotional support, something I doubt she is receiving at home. But I don't know what her family situation is at all nor the difficulties faced by the mother in supporting her daughter. The article doesn't state whether a father is present in her home.
Being of Irish descent on my mother's side I'll tell you why that is most likely so.
My mother married at 22 and was severely chastized by all her Irish relatives for marrying so young. They felt she shouldn't marry until she was at least 25-years old.
The idea that it is easier to give birth at 10-years of age is horse pucky.
No, I don't, unless they have a medical condition that will kill them.
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