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Requiem for a Sniper
The Arizona Republic; Arts & Ideas Section, Page: E16 | March 14, 1999 | Stephen Hunter, Washington Post

Posted on 05/27/2002 7:44:48 AM PDT by Slam

AMERICANS SLOW TO RECOGNIZE VALOR OF 'MURDER INC.'

The academics write their mighty histories. The politicians dictate their memoirs. The retired generals give their speeches. The intellectuals record their ironic epiphanies. And in all this hubbub attending wars either lost or won, the key man is forgotten - the lonely figure crouched in the bushes, wishing he were somewhere else: the man with the rifle.

Such a man has just died, and his passing will be marked elsewhere only in small, specialized journals with names such as Leatherneck and Tactical Shooter and in the Jesuitical culture of the Marine Corps, where he is still fiercely admired.

And in some quarters, even that small amount of respect will be observed with skepticism. After all, he was merely a grunt. He fought in a bad war. But, worst of all, he was a sniper.

Gunnery Sgt. (Ret.) Carlos N. Hathcock II, USMC, died Feb. 22 (1999) at 57 in Virginia Beach, Va., after a long decline in the grip of the only enemy he wasn't able to kill: multiple sclerosis. In the end, he didn't recognize his friends. But he had quite a life. In two tours in the 1960s, he wandered through the Republic of South Vietnam, and with a rifle made by Winchester, a heart made by God and a discipline made by the Marine Corps, he stalked and killed 93 of his country's enemies. And that was only the official count.

It's not merely that Vietnam was a war largely without heroes. It's also that the very nature of Hathcock's heroism was a problem for so many. He killed, nakedly and without warning. The line troops called him ''Murder Inc.'' behind his back. When they kill, it's in hot blood, in a haze of smoke and adrenaline.

But the sniper is different. He reduces warfare to its purest element, the destruction of another human being. He learns things no man can learn - how it looks through a scope when you center-punch an enemy at 200 yards, and how it feels - but he learns them at the risk of his own possible exile from the community.

Maybe Hathcock never cared much for the larger community, but only the Marine Corps and its mission. ''Vietnam,'' he told a reporter in 1987, ''was just right for me.''

And one must give Hathcock credit for consistency: In all the endless revising done in the wake of our second-place finish in the Southeast Asia war games, he never reinvented himself or pretended to be something he wasn't. He remained a true believer to the end, not in his nation's glory or its policies, but in his narrower commitment to the Marine code of the rifle. He was salty, leathery and a tough Marine Corps professional NCO, even in a wheelchair. His license plate said it: SNIPER.

''Hell,'' he once said, ''anybody would be crazy to like to go out and kill folks. . . . I never did enjoy killing anybody. It's my job. If I don't get those bastards, then they're going to kill a lot of these kids. That's the way I look at it.''

Though he was known for many years as the Marine Corps' leading sniper - later, a researcher uncovered another sniper with a few more official kills - he took no particular pleasure in the raw numbers.

''I'll never look at it like this was some sort of shooting match, where the man with the most kills wins the gold medal,'' he once said.

The only decoration for valor that he won was for saving, not taking, lives. On his second tour in Vietnam, on Sept. 16, 1969, he was riding atop an armored personnel carrier when it struck a 500-pound mine and erupted into flames. Hathcock was knocked briefly unconscious, sprayed with flaming gasoline and thrown clear. Waking, he climbed back aboard the burning vehicle to drag seven other Marines out. Then, ''with complete disregard for his own safety and while suffering excruciating pain from his burns, he bravely ran back through the flames and exploding ammunition to ensure that no Marines had been left behind,'' according to the citation for the Silver Star he received in November 1996 after an extensive letter-writing campaign by fellow Marines had failed to win him the Medal of Honor for his exploits with a rifle.

He was equally proud that as a sniper-platoon sergeant on two tours, no man under his command was killed. ''I never lost a person over there,'' he told a visiting journalist in 1995. ''Never lost nobody but me, and that wasn't my fault.''

Hathcock was an Arkansan, from a dirt-poor broken home, who joined the Marine Corps at 17. He qualified as an expert rifleman in boot camp and began quickly to win competitive shooting events, specializing in service-rifle competition.

He went to Vietnam in 1965, but it was six months before the Marines learned the value of dedicated sniper operations and a former commanding officer built a new unit around his talents. Hathcock took no liberty, no days off, and toward the end of his first tour finally was restricted to quarters to prevent him from going on further missions.

After the war, he suffered from the inevitable melancholy. Forced medical retirement from the Corps in 1979 - he had served 19 years, 10 months, 5 days - led to drinking problems and extended bitterness. The multiple sclerosis, discovered in 1975, certainly didn't help, and burns that covered 43 percent of his body made things even more painful. But what may have saved his life was the incremental recognition that came his way. His biography, Marine Sniper, written by Charles Henderson, was published in 1985. It sold more than half a million copies.

He authorized a poster that showed him in full combat regalia, crouched over his Model 70 Winchester, his face blackened, his boonie cap scrunched close to his head, the only identifier being a small sprig of feather in its band. In fact, a long-range .308-caliber ammunition was sold as ''White Feather,'' from the Vietnamese Long Tra'ng, his nickname. He appeared in several videos, where he revealed himself to be a practically oriented man of few but decisive words, with a sense of humor dry as a stick. He inspired several novels and at least two non-fiction books, and his exploits made it onto TV, where a JAG episode featured a tough old Marine sniper.

Finally, and perhaps best of all, he ascended to a special kind of Marine celebrity. The Corps honors its best marksman with the annual Carlos Hathcock Award. A Marine library in Washington, D.C., has been named after him, and a Virginia Civil Air Patrol unit named itself after him. In 1990, a Marine unit raised $5,000 in donations to fight multiple sclerosis and presented it to him at his home. They brought it to him the Marine way: They ran 216 miles from Camp Lejeune, N.C., to Virginia Beach.

According to the account in the Norfolk (Va.) Virginian-Pilot, the old sniper told the men, ''I am so touched, I can hardly talk.''

In the end, he could not escape the terrible disease that had been discovered in 1975. But death, with whom he had an intimate relationship, at least came to him quietly - as if out of respect.


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To: tracer; Travis McGee
You replied, the reported rules of engagement during the assault on Noriega's private escape pod were a prescription for mayhem and tragedy raining down on -- once again -- our SEALs. Your suggestion that the SEALs were set up (by jealous "Brass?")in Granada and/or Panama is indeed chilling but, I pray, entirely outside the realm of possibility...

Maybe Travis can take a break from his current project and comment on Panama and Granada and the problems the seals ran into with the tactics of the Brass that put them into harm's way.

61 posted on 05/29/2002 9:11:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
In Grenada members of ST-6 were attempting an admin linkup with US naval forces already in the area by conducting a water paradrop with gear and boats from a C-130. It was not a "combat jump" or an insertion. They went out into the big swells and hard trade winds of the eastern Caribbean and were not seen again. Who screwed up is a matter of debate, but it sure wasn't like what they were used to training at the mouth of the Chesepeake Bay!

In Panama, the mission to destroy Noriega's personal "escape" Learjet with standoff weapons was changed to capturing the jet for use by the next president. The SEALs' screwed up modified plan was to cross an open runway, "hoping" not to be noticed. Instead they ran right into some of Noriega's hard corps personal guards well armed with belt fed weapons etc. Most folks blame the SEAL Team (deleted) CO for accepting the mission change, and not just saying "screw you" to whatever dips#!t State Dept type who thought that capturing the Learjet intact was worth changing the mission.

62 posted on 05/29/2002 10:59:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee; tracer
Thanks, Travis! For taking a few minutes from your project.

I prefer to go to someone who knows and whom I trust on situations like this than to speculate. Thanks for your insight as usual.

Tracer, please read Travis's reply #62 for the real insight to what we have been discussing.

63 posted on 05/29/2002 3:09:12 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave; Travis McGee
Thanks for confirming that, at least on rare occasions, a story or two released to the sheeple by the DOD and variously reported/portrayed by The Media jibe with an insider's account.

The $64,000,000 question is whether this area of concern still is SNAFU. Lock, load, and pray....

64 posted on 05/30/2002 8:03:46 AM PDT by tracer
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To: Travis McGee
BTW, Travis, good luck with your project. I look forward to reading it when it hits the street/web.....
65 posted on 05/30/2002 8:05:35 AM PDT by tracer
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To: tracer
Thanks for the encouragement. I now plan to self publish a few thousand 5" x 8" soft cover "trade paperbacks" instead of trying for an initial NY publishing house contract, which under the best circumstances takes a year or more to have a book hit a shelf, if one can even find a house to read it much less approve it.
66 posted on 05/30/2002 8:28:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: jo6pac
The MOH should ONLY given to those who commit acts of supreme bravery with no consideration given to their own safety.

I agree. Let the MOH be the one thing left in the world where standards are maintained to acheive it.

67 posted on 06/01/2002 7:39:31 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Here is another American Beauty I came across this morning: "In the summer of 1969, Kerrey learned that his role in the firefight at Nha Trang had earned him a recommendation for the Congressional Medal of Honor. His SEAL team had put him in for a Silver Star, but his nomination had been upgraded."
68 posted on 06/02/2002 12:17:30 PM PDT by jo6pac
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To: Slam
bttt
69 posted on 06/02/2002 12:21:41 PM PDT by lodwick
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To: Grampa Dave
One Marine Major or Captain in the field with 5 to 10 Sniper teams was a very effective way of destroying the field command leadership and a lot of NCO's of the enemy.

Don't believe all the propoganda being "sold" here about how effective snipers are. If you listen to these people,most will be wanting you to believe all the Germans had to have done to stop our invasion of Europe was have a couple of hundred snipers in place. It doesn't work that way. A sniper IS a effective tool if he shoots once and dissapears,but if he shoots much more than that,he is worm food for any competent and determined enemy who starts to mortar or hit his position with air strikes as they manuever to flank him.

Snipers have a "romantic image" in America,as we see ourselves as a "nation of riflemen" who are prepared to face the enemy alone if neccessary. The truth is they are only good for targeted "hits" and for harrassment purposes. The snipers in VN got so many "kills" because they were free to shoot ANYBODY at ANY TIME who was walking around in desiginated "Free Fire Zones". This included women and children,as well as papa-sans taking a shortcut to another village,and these CIVILIANS kills became a part of their legimitate "score". Snipers mostly piss-off regular military forces,and "yes,I HAVE been shot at by snipers."

70 posted on 06/02/2002 12:46:53 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Grampa Dave
I felt that both in Panama and Grenada our Seal Teams were put into bad situations.

It was worse than that. Was was done with them borders on criminal in MY opinion. SEAL teams are NOT combat infantry assault forces,and should have never been used as such.

Were those seals placed there to be harmed by those who were jealous of their real potential?

No,it was even sillier than that. They were wasted (yes,a correct word for what happened) merely because the Navy brass wanted a "piece of the combat pie" and bragging rights when time came for a new budget. Never mind the fact that what they were ordered to do was rightly a job the USMC were far better qualified and trained to accomplish.

71 posted on 06/02/2002 12:53:54 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Travis McGee
Travis,what about the SEAL landing on a area marked on the map as "Sea Snake Beach",or some similiar name? I also heard that some of the sea-insert SEALS were fried when a Admiral ordered active sonar and other electronic devices utilized while they were in the water near his area. Any truth to all this?
72 posted on 06/02/2002 12:58:02 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: jo6pac
His SEAL team had put him in for a Silver Star, but his nomination had been upgraded."

Yup,the Navy needed a hero,so they made one.

73 posted on 06/02/2002 1:00:00 PM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
A sniper IS a effective tool if he shoots once and dissapears,but if he shoots much more than that,he is worm food for any competent and determined enemy who starts to mortar or hit his position with air strikes as they manuever to flank him.

Your point seems so common sensical, but all the news reports tend to imply snipers were so good at concealment (and silencers?) that they could operate for a while.

Did you read and do you have an opinion on the reports from Op Anaconda (or maybe is was Mtn Lion) in Afganistan of the 4-5 Canadian snipers pinned down high in the mountains...but they shot their way out/or held out til extracted? (Its been maybe a month, and I've forgotten some of the details). I'll try to find the post if you don't recall.

75 posted on 06/02/2002 2:04:02 PM PDT by Starwind
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To: Slam
Bttt.

5.56mm

76 posted on 06/02/2002 2:13:21 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Flint; Redbob
"To gain the most financial assistance from his necessary retirement, Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock was placed on the retired rolls just short of his completion of twenty years service.
There have been misunderstanding about Carlos's retirement, and some believe the Marine Corps was short-sighted and uncaring in not letting their undecorated hero complete his twenty years active service. That was not the case, and Carlos and Jo understood. To gain one hundred percent disabilty, Carlos had to retire when he did."-White Feather, Norman Chandler
77 posted on 06/02/2002 2:42:05 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Slam
"Maybe the present administration would have another look?"

Only in America does a decorated war hero who saved the lives of countless fellow Americans go unrecognized while a draftdodger who led antiwar protests against his own country during that war end up Commander-In-Chief.

78 posted on 06/02/2002 2:53:13 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: sneakypete
/1/ I never heard of a "sea snake beach" incident. I know of several incidents where SEALs found themselves amidst 100s of large sharks, but never heard of any SEALs eaten.

/2/ It's a myth that sonar pinging harms divers. I have been in the water very close to pinging sonar, it's just a loud ringing "PING" sound. No big deal. In Beirut we had any destroyers in the area ping, but only to frighten the potential swimmers. (We spread false rumors that it would sterilize divers.) We also tossed 2.5# socks of C-4 off our fast boats every few minutes all through the ship anchorage, again, the odds of hitting a diver were negligible, it was mostly a scare tactic.

79 posted on 06/02/2002 2:57:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Starwind
Did you read and do you have an opinion on the reports from Op Anaconda (or maybe is was Mtn Lion) in Afganistan of the 4-5 Canadian snipers pinned down high in the mountains...but they shot their way out/or held out til extracted?

I vaguely recall it,but they had advantages that Hathcock and the other VN snipers didn't have. They were using dedicated 50 caliber sniper rifles,shooting with a elevation advantage (a BIG advantage!),and were shooting over open space with little cover. The guys there were shooting at were armed with inaccurate assault rifles with a real-life maximum accurate 200 yard range,and the Canadian snipers could pick them off 800 yards before they got that close.

On the other hand,unless he was assigned somewhere in the Delta or some other place where there were wide-open spaces,VN-era snipers didn't get long shots. In the actual jungle,20 feet is a long shot,and the people you are shooting at CAN tell the general direction you are shooting from after your first shot. This is true even if you are shooting a suppressed weapon. If you screw up and make the second one without shifting position,you are a dead man. You just don't have the advantages sniping at short range the long-range sniper has.

80 posted on 06/02/2002 4:54:32 PM PDT by sneakypete
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