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To: CalConservative
I don't agree with everything that this gentleman says, but he is right about how the homosexual movement operates. A few points where we disagree are:

1. I don't think that inclusiveness has to be negative. Where I work, inclusiveness has come to mean treating everyone with respect. Obviously, different people have different definitions, and we must not allow the homosexuals to have their definition imposed. However, where I work respect means that people conduct themselves with a proper modesty regardless of how they receive sexual gratification. It also means that we don't engage in name-calling or other mistreatment of homosexuals.

2. I think it's possible that there may be some genetic factor in homosexuality. The studies are inconclusive at this point, but they don't rule out the possibility. Fifteen years ago, the same kind of studies were finding the same kinds of correlations suggesting that alcoholism had a genetic component. Maybe alcoholism does have a genetic component, but that doesn't make it normal, natural, or healthy.

3. Arguing that many homosexuals would secretly like to change themselves is a losing argument. Those who are unhappy blame their unhappiness on society's traditional disapproval of homosexuality. When we start making guesses about "what they are really thinking," they will engage in the same kind of tactics, and all hope of reasonable debate is lost.

Again, the guy makes some interesting points. I think he paints with too broad a brush in some places, but he is very good in others.

WFTR
Bill

9 posted on 05/26/2002 10:00:54 PM PDT by WFTR
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To: WFTR
Perhaps the case of actor Anthony Perkins might illustrate the "homosexual by choice" controversy. Perkins, a life-long homosexual, became troubled by his sexual orientation and sought and obtained therapy to deal with it. He eventually decided to abandon the "life style" and succeeded in meeting, falling in love with, and marrying a woman when he was 41, entering an extended marriage (19 years) which produced two children. The postscript to this otherwise happy story is that Perkins died at the age of 60 from AIDS-related diseases. His wife died on 9-11 on one of the planes flown into the WTC. Did he carry the HIV virus for 19 years (how likely is that?) or did he, in the course of his marriage, choose to resume his former activities? I guess this true-life anecdote is not as illuminating as I had hoped, probably raising more questions than it answers. It does serve to show once again that there is no pat explanation for this human condition and I don't think there ever will be.
10 posted on 05/26/2002 10:47:28 PM PDT by luvbach1
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