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Ted Maher now says "It was an accident"
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Posted on 05/23/2002 7:54:41 PM PDT by Jalapeno

New Yorker pleads with Monaco court not to prosecute him in arson deaths

 

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Ted Maher, left, could spend the rest of his life in a Monaco prison if convicted of killing billionaire Edmond Safra and a nurse in a fire he set in 1999.

 









 

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To: Conservative til I die
"When people start saying things like "how much is Monaco paying you" it gets me wondering about the legitimacy of that person"

When people like in post 2 start off calling everyone fools you have to wonder why.
Let me know when you have read all the facts, or if you have just read a thread were the title was altered to distort the facts.
181 posted on 05/24/2002 7:44:59 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
No way would I read the infor in post 118 again.
182 posted on 05/24/2002 7:46:58 PM PDT by ethical
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To: d4now
Tonkin deserves an apology as this sort of personal attack is exactly the opposite of what I've come to know FreeRepublic stands for.

Bwahahaha! FreeRepublic, IMO almost solely stands for personal attacks these days. You should read the war on drug and Catholic threads.
183 posted on 05/24/2002 7:49:38 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: ethical
"No way would I read the infor in post 118 again."

Ok, so believe the media and believe the altered thread title.
And don't forget to read the "reliable" sources in the Time Magazine and NY Times article.

Then ask yourself why no trial date since DEC of 1999
184 posted on 05/24/2002 7:50:45 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Teacher317
Should America allow its citizens, guilty or not, to spend 29 months in a foreign jail (or US jail for that matter) without a trial?

We have jurisdiction over how the Monaco government runs it's judicial system?

I guess then that the Sudan has a right to demand the freedom of Sudnaese-American Muslim that decides to kill a Christian on American soil, since that's not really a crime back in the homeland.

185 posted on 05/24/2002 7:56:05 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Nita Nupress
You know, if you would take the time to actually read the facts about things before reaching your conclusions, you'd probably find your entire viewpoint of life would change about a lot of things.

A lot of people have read the facts as presented by you and others, I did. They did not ring believable to me from the get go. What Ted is saying now does.

186 posted on 05/24/2002 7:56:57 PM PDT by ethical
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To: Nita Nupress
Did Mrs. Maher join to plead her husbands case or was she into conservative politics?
187 posted on 05/24/2002 7:58:58 PM PDT by ethical
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To: ethical
"What Ted is saying now does."

Your source? What EXACTLY is he saying?
Use a source other than the prosecution.
188 posted on 05/24/2002 7:59:28 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
I find it amazing that some FReepers actually believe such sources as Time Magazine and the NY Times. They probably believe that Radio FR is not a reliable source of real facts.

Yes, because if its on the internet, it must be true.
189 posted on 05/24/2002 8:03:11 PM PDT by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die
"We have jurisdiction over how the Monaco government runs it's judicial system?"

Who said we did?
But Americans do stick up for Americans, no matter where they are.
Does the phrase "Innocent until proven guilty" mean anything to you?
190 posted on 05/24/2002 8:04:21 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Conservative til I die
You know what? You're right.

Personal attacks, downright ignorance, and the ever present "nuke 'em all" crowd makes a number of posters at FR the republican parties worst enemy.

But hey, I'm catholic and use "G_d Bless" on some of my posts out of respect for my Jewish friends.

Could be I'm sensitive. Could be I'm just sick of posters who have diarrhea of the mouth that I stepped in last night to defend a dear friend. A dear friend who has done more for FR and our country than most of us could ever dream of.

191 posted on 05/24/2002 8:04:39 PM PDT by d4now
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To: American Preservative
With what happened to Pearl, would being coerced into a false confession be farfetched? I don't think so. After so long and no end in sight, might he have "confessed" in hopes of reaching a deal or settlement of some sort?
192 posted on 05/24/2002 8:07:36 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Lancey Howard

Who, exactly, is the source of all those items listed in post #118?
Who, exactly, is it that says that Monaco is hiding something?

First, don't you think that some of us would have been sued by now if Monaco and Lily Safra didn't have something to hide?  At least get one of those cute little cease and desist letters?  

The information in #118 came from several sources, some of which I can share.  Some of it came from hours of background  research; some of it came from inductive and deductive reasoning after reading it; and some of it came from watching the particular combination of  well-known people with reputations to protect get involved in this case.  And yes, some of it came from corresponding with various members of the family.  

By the way, have you read the two or three places on this thread where I've stated I'm not 100% sure that Mr. Maher is  innocent?  What is it about those statements you don't understand?  And are you telling us that you're 100% sure that this American is guilty?  If you're not, does that mean your mind is already made up without even seeing the evidence?

Is there anything at all for me to hang my hat on with regard to giving Maher a benefit of the doubt? 

Does that mean you're okay with an American being thrown in jail for life without being allowed to all his evidence into trial?  Just what would it take for you to "give Maher the benefit of the doubt?"   What exactly is it that you need "to hang your hat on?"  What would it take for you to even entertain the thought that this man just may have been a victim of a Russian mob hit and Monaco's need for a tidy little wrap-up?

Probably something like an autopsy or DNA analysis, right?   

Gee, wouldn't that be nice?  

193 posted on 05/24/2002 8:29:54 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: ethical
Did Mrs. Maher join to plead her husbands case or was she into conservative politics?

I have no idea. Is that important to you like it is to sinkspur?

Should a man's wife's political leanings have any bearing on his ability to present his evidence and receive a fair trial?

194 posted on 05/24/2002 8:37:00 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: ethical
A lot of people have read the facts as presented by you and others, I did. They did not ring believable to me from the get go. What Ted is saying now does.

You are certainly entitled to that opinion.

195 posted on 05/24/2002 8:38:32 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; harpseal; maestro; Landru; American Preservative...
FREE TED MAHER NOW, MONACO

DAY 902 WRONGLY IMPRISONED WITHOUT TRIAL ON EXTORTED FALSE CONFESSION

Thomas Sancton in Time of 12-20-99 uses three negative sources: an ex-wife deemed unfit by the court who lost custody of the son; a former neighbor identified by police as a troublemaker; a person claiming to have been a landlord--a fraud. Sancton chose to ignore my inquiries.

Monaco prosecutor Daniel Serdet claimed Ted was using drugs, yet Monaco's Princess Grace Hospital tested Ted for drugs and alcohol and the results were negatif negatif negatif. This was shown on DatelineNBC November 21, 2000, "Who Killed the Billionaire?"

It was on that program that Israeli journalist Boaz Bismuth told NBC's Sara James that one of the Safra security team told him "it was the lady [Lily Safra]" who sent the security team to the chateau La Leopolda.

Ted's knife wounds required approximately 100 staples and numerous transfusions. He was taken to the hospital, and an hour later "a sudden conflagration" occurred which was noted in three places in the fire report. The fire report also noted numerous sources of ignition and the use of accelerants, something Ted never admitted to.

The burglar alarm was disconnected July 1, 1999 per the head of Monaco Securite.

Ted and Vivian were hired that month.

At the time of the attack, police did not respond. They cannot produce the tape of emergency calls for that day, December 3, 1999, but they can for the 2d and the 4th.

Ted then put one of Laura Slatkin's scented candles in a wastebasket and held it under a smoke detector. The first alarm went in at 4:54 am yet police did not "find" the bodies until 7:45 am, nearly three hours later.

Ted was forced to sign a false confession after three days in four-point restraint, catheterized, sleep-deprived and threatened with his wife's detainment. Monaco police had his wife and had taken her passport. They had played tapes of the children and shown pictures of the children--in New York. A nice touch.

Having signed the false confession in French which Ted does not read, write or speak, he is in jeopardy under Monaco law to renounce it. He is also ill-served by Georges Blot and Donald Manasse, for whom the confession is a given.

Michael Griffith is attempting to defend Ted but was forbidden to speak at the appeal.

Jim Williams was finally freed from the Ecuadoran jail after some 1400 days wrongly imprisoned on a DEA-engineered money-laundering frame. Griffith assisted, and Martha Melzow was with our Consulate there as she is now in Marseilles.

196 posted on 05/24/2002 9:27:28 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: PhilDragoo
I still have a copy of Ted's knife wounds on my server if you need it.
197 posted on 05/24/2002 10:01:16 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Nita Nupress;PhilDragoo;harpseal;All
Almost 200 posts and still not one explanation from the "Ted must be guilty" crowd as to why still no trial date set.
How soon they forget the phrase "Innocent until proven guilty."
If they ever actually read the threads they would understand that people supporting Ted
are supporting his right to a fair and speedy trial OR his release if Monaco will not set a trial date.
198 posted on 05/24/2002 10:07:47 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Nita Nupress
Whoa...
I have enjoyed your posts for several years, mostly as Nita Nuprez, and I never read one like #193. You are a tad touchy on this subject, no? I don't think I ever declared myself one way or the other - - I certainly have no reason to trust the government of Monaco or the characters involved there. I also have no reason to trust Ted Maher or his associates. In fact, it appears he has admitted to setting the fire that killed two people.

I ask for "something to hang my hat on" to give Maher the benefit of the doubt, and instead of cold, hard sourced facts, I get posts like yours berating me for not blindly jumping on the 'save Ted' bandwagon.

I agree that the whole situation stinks to high heaven, and Monaco has done nothing to lend itself any credibility, but Monaco is not the United States, and to expect that place to do things the way we do is naive. Ted definitely did not choose a very excellent adventure when he decided to go be a nurse for some foreign millionaire. Well, we shall see how it pans out. In the meantime, I won't be contacting George Bush to look into the matter.

Regards,
LH

199 posted on 05/24/2002 10:54:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Nita Nupress
P.S. - Just look at that picture.
Ted is obviously a crazed psychopath.

Regards,
LH

200 posted on 05/24/2002 10:57:10 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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