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Grant Co., OR - Election: "United Nations Ban" wins !!!
Grant County Oregon Clerks Office ^ | 5/22/2002 | Election Records of Grant County

Posted on 05/23/2002 9:44:23 AM PDT by Jack Black

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To: Poohbah
"Then vote them out of office and find someone else to do the job."

You know full well that this is not possible when the Parties will only trot out their trick ponies as a candidate, and all the ponies know only one trick. You really think anyone wanted Bush? He was all that was offered for us to "make do" with.

Don't try to use tired, old, slogans with me, it's lame. It's time for a change.

101 posted on 05/24/2002 11:38:51 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
You know full well that this is not possible when the Parties will only trot out their trick ponies as a candidate, and all the ponies know only one trick.

Bravo Sierra. Anyone who meets the requirements outlined in the Constitution can run in the primary; the hard part is winning the primary, and that sort of thing is why God invented the concept known as "work."

You really think anyone wanted Bush?

Yes, actually, they did. That's why he survived the primary process.

He was all that was offered for us to "make do" with.

Hey, Keyes was running.

Don't try to use tired, old, slogans with me, it's lame.

The loser's standard complaint: "WAAH! IT'S NOT FAIR!"

It's time for a change.

The make the change happen. Or is that just a little too much like work for your taste?

102 posted on 05/24/2002 11:50:16 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Given vote fraud, most likely from both parties, we just can't really be sure who won what, now can we. The only reasonable answer is for people to take back the power to their local areas and states. That tactic solves all kinds of problems.
103 posted on 05/24/2002 12:01:04 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Given vote fraud, most likely from both parties, we just can't really be sure who won what, now can we. The only reasonable answer is for people to take back the power to their local areas and states. That tactic solves all kinds of problems.

No, it doesn't. Remember that elections are LOCALLY decided. That means that any hypothesized vote fraud takes place at the local level.

BTW, would you like some cheese and moose to go with your whine?

104 posted on 05/24/2002 12:02:55 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Another cheap trick. Because I'm female and want power given back to the states I'm whining? Cough up that voter's registration card, I don't believe you are a conservative, you smell like a cheezy lib.=o)

You must be very naive to believe that ballot boxes were not stuffed locally on the orders of the national party in the last election. How do you think Hillary attained the heights of Senatehood? There were five thousand more votes than registered voters in New Mexico alone.

Too much power is concentrated in D.C., far, far, too much power. Since you like to quote this one and that, how about "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"? Power needs to be drained from D.C. and taken back by the States and local governments, so stop whining about it.=o)

105 posted on 05/24/2002 12:09:29 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
Expecting this massive change to be accomplished at the ballot box and simultaneously whining about vote fraud strikes me as the height of illogic.
106 posted on 05/24/2002 12:13:56 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
I never said it had to be accomplished at the national ballot box, that is a dead end.

It is accomplished by just such actions as Grant County took for a start, then citizens of a state demanding more action from their governors just saying no to D.C. and sending their entangling Federal money back to them, sans their input.

Placing a ceiling on just how much the citizens of their states can be taxed by D.C. and limiting or ending control of the Fed over their resources and population and being willing to back up their laws with their own national guard, in co-operation with other states if it becomes neccessary. Change begins at the bottom with the individual citizen joining with other like minded individuals and growing support for their idea's based on the basic logic of the right of survival, it's time for a change.

107 posted on 05/24/2002 12:25:55 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Poohbah
The UN measure is completely unconstitutional.

You are probably correct. However, to see citizens rise up and spit in the face of their government is encouraging. Almost leads one to believe that citizens could become even more audacious in their acts of insolence, toward a U.N. loving Socialist government.Would you agree?

108 posted on 05/24/2002 1:50:26 PM PDT by meanspirit77
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To: meanspirit77
Yeah, glad to know you think that throwing out the Constitution is a good thing if YOUR side is the winner.
109 posted on 05/24/2002 1:51:35 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Ok,now that you have given me a side,(I take great pride in being a loner),our side will win, and we will amend the constitution. Especially as to who shall have the right to vote and how long a person shall be able to spend in elective office.
110 posted on 05/24/2002 2:47:44 PM PDT by meanspirit77
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To: meanspirit77
If victory requires you to amend the Constitution after giving it a good shredding...may I enquire as to how you see victory coming about?
111 posted on 05/24/2002 3:44:57 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
does not the constitution protect the rights of americans through limits on their governments? so banning foreign sovereignty ie the un over us citizens passes my muster whereas the implantation of an american institution ban would not... and i do think hard, thank you...
112 posted on 05/24/2002 8:01:50 PM PDT by teeman8r
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To: philetus
Probably the main loss has the loss of jobs due to the enviral Nazis in the logging/lumber business, the loss of income from the farmers and ranchers in the Klamath Basin due to the sucker fish over people Rural cleansing agenda last year (that cost the Oregone economy about $300 million in gross income lost buy the farmers ranchers. There have been tremendous jobs loss when the aluminum industry shut down their smelting plants last year due to the increased costs of electricity. These plants were along the Columbia river and thousands of people lost their jobs. Due to the drought, the water nazis for salmon/steelhead and the sending of electricity to Kali to meet our demands, these smelting companies could make more money selling the electricity, they didn't use, back to the sytem to be used in Kali, Oregone, and Washington.

The high prices of electricity devastated small businesses in Oregone last year.

Portland and the other left wing cities in Oregone work 24/7 to slam business and to promote the zero people equation of the enviro whackos. This drives business away. Intel basically told the anti business whackos to forget it. This killed future construction of Intel offices or enlargement of their campus in Beaverton.

Add all of the above and other anti business/human agendas brought on by the enviral nazis and their governor to our national recession and loss of tourism after 9/11 put Oregon in a terrible situation re financial. The WSJ early last year put Oregon up as one of the first states to be in a full blown recession. Its sister states, also, ruled by Enviral Fascist Governors, Washington and Kali are right there with Oregone!

113 posted on 05/25/2002 8:04:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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