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To: Twodees
I showed you logically that if a = b and b = c then a must necessarily = c.

If the supremacy clause of the constitution states that it is the overriding law of the land, then for a state to secede, it could not legally override anything in the Constitution.  Seceding necessarily disavows the constitutionally mandated federal government.  Doing so breaks the supremacy clause.  Ergo, secession is illegal, since the supremacy clause states that the constitution (and treaties) is the supreme law of the land.  If you can't understand the logic of that, there's not much more that I can say.

BTW, the south compounded their error, because they denied that the supremacy clause applied (with the exception of Tennessee) in spite of the painfully plain language to the contrary.
670 posted on 05/29/2002 12:58:23 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
I showed you logically that if a = b and b = c then a must necessarily = c.

Hey ---- don't go throwing higher math at that good 'ol boy. You'll make his head explode.

671 posted on 05/29/2002 1:06:47 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
No, you showed no such thing. You didn't even quote the text of the articles you claim make your case. Of course there's nothing else you can say. I never expected that there would be.

You really should break down and read the document instead of rattling around from pillar to post pretending to know what it contains.

A+B+C= hassayampa indeed. I'll give you credit for the lamest attempt to make this ridiculous case since the last time Walt was drunk enough to try to paraphrase the 10th amendment, though.

678 posted on 05/29/2002 6:08:21 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
, the south compounded their error, because they denied that the supremacy clause applied (with the exception of Tennessee) in spite of the painfully plain language to the contrary.

For the last time, the Supremacy Clause, like every other clause in the Constitution, only applies to the laws and governments of States that are in the Union.

The clauses of the Constitution didn't apply to States that hadn't yet ratified, in 1787, and they don't apply to States that, sitting in convention as the People, exercise their Sovereignty which is certainly reserved under the 9th and 10th Amendments (but need not be explicitly reserved, because Sovereignty trumps all agreements) by taking counsel among themselves and seceding from the Union.

702 posted on 05/30/2002 8:11:15 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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