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To: Non-Sequitur
Your modest proposal also displays a lack of understanding of the history of the period.

Is this where I'm supposed to burst into tears and beg your forgiveness for having had the temerity to say "red" when you said "blue"? There is such a thing in debate as "appeal to authority" -- but you have plenty of chutzpah setting yourself up as the authority, and grading everyone else's papers for him.

Lincoln couldn't endorse the 13th Amendment - it hadn't been proposed yet.

This is America, professor. Anybody can propose anything at any time.

The amendment was rushed through the Congress in February 1861 in an attempt to head off the southern rebellion.

Check your calendar, professor. Half of Dixie was already gone, and Jefferson Davis had one foot out the door of the United States Senate.

It would have been hard for Lincoln to campaign for something that hadn't been proposed yet.

You mean, like Reconstruction? Funny how that happened, though, even without his campaigning for it in 1860: Ladies and gentlemen, my platform is one of Reconstruction........after I burn the South to the ground, kill a quarter million of her free citizens, free all the slaves, and give them the franchise -- so they can be Southern Republicans and vote the surviving Southerners down on everything! Yessir, a vote for Abe Lincoln, the Rail Splitter, is a vote for pillars of smoke all over the South! We'll show them! On to Richmond!

Lincoln couldn't have done anything to halt the spread of slavery in Texas since Texas was already a slave state and could promote slavery anywhere within her borders.

Check my posts above, professor, and see if you can find the post in which I told you when Texas joined the Union! But thanks for the review.......

In short, there was nothing that Lincoln could have done to prevent the southern actions except lose the election.

Bull hockey! Fallacy of distraction, straw man. Bogus bull. He could have done plenty -- and since he was ONLY seeking the Presidency of the United States, he damn well owed it to everyone to do lots and lots to forestall the Civil War. The fact that he didn't, is precisely my charge against him. Which you seem to understand perfectly, while asking me to believe three impossible things before breakfast. For which I'm late -- see ya, fellas, I think I'll go git me some grits !

507 posted on 05/28/2002 7:22:39 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
This is America, professor. Anybody can propose anything at any time.

In 1860 that didn't apply to the 3.5 million Americans who were slaves.

Walt

508 posted on 05/28/2002 7:27:14 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: lentulusgracchus
Bull hockey! Fallacy of distraction, straw man. Bogus bull. He could have done plenty -- and since he was ONLY seeking the Presidency of the United States, he damn well owed it to everyone to do lots and lots to forestall the Civil War. The fact that he didn't, is precisely my charge against him.

What do you think President Lincoln could have done differently between November 1860 and March 1861?

Walt

509 posted on 05/28/2002 7:28:47 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: lentulusgracchus
Yeah, right. Whatever. Have a nice lunch.
533 posted on 05/28/2002 9:32:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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