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Group-sexual assault in swimmingpool (in the Netherlands)
De Telegraaf ^ | May 21 2002 | Joan van den Dungen

Posted on 05/21/2002 3:40:36 PM PDT by knighthawk

Joan van den Dungen, EINDHOVEN - Two girls from Helmond (Dutch city), aged 14 and 15, have been sexualy assaulted this weekend by players of a soccerteam made up of immigrant youths from Rotterdam in the tropical swimmingparadise 'De Tongelreep' in Eindhoven.

Police and employees of the swimming pool managed to detain six suspects after they feeled up and kept harrassing the girls. According the director of the swimmingpool, Arie Heesterbeek, the boys struck shortly before leaving after their supervisor went to the reception to call them out of the water by the intercom. "They tried to get away, but thanks to clues from the personel and other swimmers the police managed to detain them Their supervisor was very affected because of it, he is in deep shame".

The direction of 'De Tongelreep' took stringent precautions five years ago after especialy boys from immigrant decent regualry sexualy assaulted girls. Most perpetrators have to undergo theraphy and learn how to adapt to Dutch moral standards.

Also all other swimming pools in the Netherlands seem to have these kind of problems. "Some guests have to learn to keep their fingers to themselves, not to touch the girls. We do not tolerate this behavior", says Heesterbeek.

Since the prevention-project 'Kennen and be known' in 1997 -the swimming pool was known then as the 'Tongel-rape'- in Eindhoven, the number of sexual assaults decreased with 60% to some seven incidents a year. "Our approach works", says Heesterbeek. "There also is almost no repeat by people who were caught. But every sexual assault is one too many. Our complete staff is specialy shooled to deal with immigrant kids. Furthermore there are seventeen security camrea's. The chance they get caught is 100%! The swimming pool made a deal with the police in Eindhoven and other cities, but also with bureau HALT, that helps youth who go astray."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: eindhoven; helmond; immigrants; sexualassault; thenetherlands
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To: weikel
Thanks, and also thanks for the support.
41 posted on 05/21/2002 4:50:14 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk; RayBob
While I struggle to teach my children to respect others, these clods deserve no respect. The fact that they are foreigners is secondary.

I have no problem with legal immigrants. I have a huge problem with hooligans, and think that a crime such as this is enough to deny them potential citizenship and all benefits.

Well, maybe one benefit. A one way bus ticket home.

43 posted on 05/21/2002 4:53:08 PM PDT by texas booster
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To: knighthawk
Wow. This brings back memories for me. When my father was stationed in Germany, we would sometimes go to the local German pool (as opposed to a DOD facility). One summer, when I was about 10, a (probably Turkish as the most common immigrant at the time)teenage boy grabbed the top of my swimsuit and tried to pull it down to do who knows what. I screamed help in German as loud as I could a couple of times and he backed away. I hadn't really forgotten it, but I also hadn't put it into perspective with current problems they are having there. Luckily, he didn't get away with much, but I was not comfortable there after that.
44 posted on 05/21/2002 4:58:33 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: knighthawk
I'm so glad you're back knighthawk. Any chance they'll be able to get this under control with the new legislature?
45 posted on 05/21/2002 5:01:50 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: texas booster
And that is the problem here.

Most decent immigrants are refused to take refugee here. People from Iran and Iraq with high educations are send back. There was a documentary of a familiy living for 6 years now in the Netherlands. Their children spoke almost perfect Dutch (unlike most other immigrants who skip the courses). But they would be sent back in a short while.

But a lot of people from Somalia throw away their passports after stepping out of the plane and lie to the INS (Immigration service). Even when they are caught lying or are proven criminals, they get to stay here!

Recently the government started an investigation to see how it is possible thousands (!) of Somalian kids are 'smuggled' by plane into the Netherlands to recieve child-support, that is cashed by the criminals who arrange them to come over.

For years this has been going on and while everybody knew about it, nobidy stopped it. Now people are waking up and believe me, the voters didn't vote for right parties en-masse because of the way CDA-leader Balkenede looks like Harry Potter!

46 posted on 05/21/2002 5:03:09 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: RayBob
The problem that we all face is that muslims, in general, see women as objects. Period.

Give the man a prize! That is a big part of the problem. And while the Western attitude toward women has not always been very nice it has never been as bad as the Muslim view.

When you have a culture where one sex is worshipped and one is revile there are going to be some big time kinks in their cutural physic.

a.cricket

47 posted on 05/21/2002 5:05:17 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: conservative cat
Sorry to hear that. It's beyond me why they do things like that. I can imagine that you feel this way.
48 posted on 05/21/2002 5:05:38 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: McGavin999
I hope that they will start to do something now. People are fed up and the left is trying to save as much as they can. It is impossible for them now to protect the criminals like they have for decades. Also the leftist-organizations are recieving a lot of hate-mail and threats. They are recieving the same thing they unleashed on others for speaking up now.
49 posted on 05/21/2002 5:08:04 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: My2Cents
these little perverts should be subjected to Saudi justice -- cut off their hands.

Being that they are rapists, something other than the hands should be cut off.

50 posted on 05/21/2002 5:09:44 PM PDT by Alouette
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To: knighthawk
Ya know, the article never actually SAYS it was Møøse Limbs.

Is there a question in anyone else's mind? None in mine...

51 posted on 05/21/2002 5:09:58 PM PDT by null and void
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To: knighthawk
"Instead of them adapting to us, we seem to be forced to adapt to them!"

Exactly. It's the same goddamned ridiculous attitude here...if I were to immigrate to the Netherlands, you can be damned sure I'd try to learn the language and acceptable behaviour. Everytime one of these lechers is caught violating a woman's body or is convicted of rape, they should face deportation back to the MOORocco.

52 posted on 05/21/2002 5:10:17 PM PDT by Frances_Marion
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To: knighthawk
Very glad you're back. Please add me to your ping list. Appreciate your posts!
53 posted on 05/21/2002 5:13:21 PM PDT by Mugwumps
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To: knighthawk
In the Netherlands we have got a new saying: THE BULLET CAME FROM THE LEFT.

The silence in the media here about Pim's assassination has been pretty amazing.
About a four-minute mention on the news...and gone.

And not a peep from the USA gay-rights/advocacy groups.

I guess it's just a given that there is open season on gays...if they are rightist/conservatives.

(welcome back, too!)
54 posted on 05/21/2002 5:18:54 PM PDT by VOA
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To: knighthawk
The bullets come from the Left in a lot of countries. Great saying.
55 posted on 05/21/2002 5:20:36 PM PDT by Mugwumps
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To: Mugwumps
Thanks, and you are on the list now. I got also the other lists: 1. "islam, the religion of peace (TM)"-list -> the list you asked to be on 2. Middle East vs US and Israel-list (also for international news on Israel) 3. "Get the US out of the UN"-list 4. Just ping me on everything you post-list (Look at the first reply on all my posts) If you are interested in another list, please let me know. Friso (Knighthawk)
56 posted on 05/21/2002 5:21:23 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: AM2000
The Dutch may be sexually promiscous (sp?) but they certainly draw the line at non-consensual activity.

That may be the last line they have left.

57 posted on 05/21/2002 5:24:42 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: knighthawk
4. Just ping me on everything you post-list

How kind of you to offer such a sophisticated ping option list. Please just ping me on everything you post - I've found it all enlightening and worthwhile.

P.S. We should just call you 'Free Republic of the Netherlands.' Your posts ROCK!

58 posted on 05/21/2002 5:27:18 PM PDT by Mugwumps
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To: aculeus
Meaning what? That Dutch men are also rapists?

No, meaning that for the Dutch to talk about their "moral standards" is laughable. They are the most morally depraved, post-Christian Western nation.

59 posted on 05/21/2002 5:29:20 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: Mugwumps; VOA
See you tomorrow and thanks!
60 posted on 05/21/2002 5:29:59 PM PDT by knighthawk
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