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To: Reagan Man
You can theorize all you want. The fact is you made a multitude of untruthful and downright stupid remarks. You said, the Bush adminsitration is overlooking and ignoring the involvment of Saudi Arabian nationals in the events of 9-11, that Saudi's have given monetary support, to the families of suicide bombers, that OBL is a Saudi himself and that OPEC is an international oil cartel, whose business it is to make money. Truth is, Bush and his people haven't ignored or overlooked any of these facts.

Well, if you can quit contradicting yourself (you said I made a multitude of untruthful/stupid remarks and then you go on to say they are facts) then we can talk. Bush has overlooked those facts. He is not pressing the Saudis on why so many roads lead back to Saudi Arabia. There's all this talk about leveling Iraq, when we don't even have anything to link them to 9/11 (I believe even the Czechs are saying the meetings didn't take place) and meanwhile we've got all of these Saudi nations and Saudi money wrapped around terrorism and Bush ignores it!!! It boggles the mind!

To even mention such a hypothetical occurance, shows how much hate, you have for President Bush and how little you care about America's future. The man's been in office for 16 months, yet you've already concluded his Presidency is a failure, based on your convoluted and myopic thinking. WOW!

I don't hate him at all, I voted for him in three elections. I have a problem with his actions and the things he is doing that will affect our future, I'm not even talking about him growing the size of the federal government or going against campaign promises (which we all ripped Clinton on, but apparently you can't if it's a Republican)

You see, I care about the future (call me paranoid, that's fine) - things like the PATRIOT Act, CFR, etc. that with the wrong administration can and probably will be abused. I care about the Constitution. Anytime anybody starts playing games with it, all in the name of "protecting" us, well I have a big problem.

I wish I could trust the federal government as much as you do, but I don't. Eight years of Clinton taught me that, and Bush at times is acting no different.

When you think about it, those of us who voted for Bush have a big-time right to criticize him when he wonders off the path. He's supposed to be our guy. Up until the past year or so, I was a registered Republican all my life, voted Republican in every election. I was once like you. But I started seeing things that didn't quite add up, and hearing things that just didn't sound right. As it stands - both parties sound identical in many many areas. I see no point in being a part of either if they are just going to mimic each other depending on what the polls say.

287 posted on 05/26/2002 2:43:24 PM PDT by texlok
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To: texlok
Well, if you can quit contradicting yourself...

I'm not contradicting myself and you know it. You made several accusatory statements about Bush ignoring and overlooking certain factual events. That simply isn't true. But we'll move on.

It boggles the mind!

I have no idea, exactly what pressures our government has brought to bear on Saudi Arabia, because of events on 9-11. I have NO love for the religion of Islam, nor any kinship with the Arab world. In fact, I think they're a bunch of barbarians. I would venture to guess, another occurance similiar to 9-11 and all hell WILL break lose. Its the job of the Arab/Muslim world, to control and police their own people. If they can't handle the job, others will step in and make it happen. For right now, diplomacy and not overreacting is the way to go. America is at war with international terrorism. It's obvious, you consider the Saudi government, to be directly supporting terrorism, at all levels. The Bush administration disagrees with you and since I trust Bush and company, I'll side with them.

Since you've offered no substantive alternatives for the US to undertake at this time, my question to you is, exactly what do you except, President Bush to do with Saudi Arabia? Stop buying Saudi oil? Go on world-wide TV and renounce Saudi Arabia? Demand compensation for 9-11? Demand the Saudi's commit hari-kari? Just what do you want? Should America go to war with the Saudi's, which really means, going to war with the entire Arab-Muslim world?

If you truly voted for Bush three times, how the hell can you give up on him, after a mere 16 months in office? It makes no sense to me, at all. That's irrational behavior? I don't agree with everything that Bush has done since he took office. I didn't support the education bill, the farm bill and signing CFR legislation. But Bush has done a lot of good, for America in his short time in office. I offered just a few of the many, excellent decisions Bush has made and can list many more. Remember the Reagan statement I mentioned in an ealier reply to you.
"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later..."

What's the alternative in 2004? Browne, Hagelin, Philips, may be Keyes or Buchanan again? Perhaps Hillary Rotten, Ralph Nadar, or Algore?

Conservatives have to take a stand, but switching sides or joining a fringe third party, isn't the answer. Like Reagan, I'd rather fight from within and get most of what I want, then be on the sidelines, with no influence whatsoever. When you're on the sidelines, all you can do is throw stink bombs and waste your vote at election time.

291 posted on 05/26/2002 5:47:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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