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To: Rudder
Too bad this pompous, self-righteous, nanny church couldn't bring itself to practice the teachings of Christ.

Even Christ, in anger, threw the money-changers from the temple. The church group has a code of conduct to uphold-- and EVERYONE is accountable. Remember how your teacher punished the whole class, when there was an infraction? You didn't think it was fair-- but it worked. Public schools do the same thing with families at times-- suspension can punish the family more than the kid, who thinks he's getting an extra vacation-- and the way this is being handled, it's likely Mom didn't say to daughter she's expelled because of Mommy's stripping, but told her they don't like Mommy's job. The school probably said NOTHING to daughter, just handed her pink slip to her mother.

Don't you just hate it when someone trangsresses your own personal moral code and gets away with it?

Maybe you and the mom see it that way. I would expect the Church leaders are feeling transgressed, themselves-- look, they're going to compromise with a person who has no intention of making a full, and complete repentence. "Go they way, AND SIN NO MORE." Thankfully, we don't have to be the judge, but the mom said she wasn't proud of her job-- are you saying that her own feelings of guilt are the result of someothers' trangression? The woman was conflicted from day 1. What's with people who feel transgressed by others, when they really do it to themselves?

247 posted on 05/19/2002 11:31:17 AM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: let freedom sing
Even Christ, in anger, threw the money-changers from the temple.

She didn't perform in the temple--the money changers did.

255 posted on 05/19/2002 12:36:32 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: let freedom sing
The church group has a code of conduct to uphold-- and EVERYONE is accountable.
Right.......

If you are a 'Christian' THESE are in YOUR Book!

Do you believe them?

Do you FOLLOW them?!


2 Timothy 4:3
 3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

Galatians 5:19-21
 19.  The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
 20.  idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
 21.  and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
 

Ephesians 4:22-32
 22.  You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires;
 23.  to be made new in the attitude of your minds;
 24.  and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.
 25.  Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body.
 26.  "In your anger do not sin" : Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry,
 27.  and do not give the devil a foothold.
 28.  He who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need.
 29.  Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
 30.  And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
 31.  Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.
 32.  Be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving each other, just as in Christ God forgave you.

Ephesians 5:1-6
 1.  Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children
 2.  and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
 3.  But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.
 4.  Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
 5.  For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a man is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
 6.  Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient.
 

 
Colossians 3:1-8
 1.  Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God.
 2.  Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.
 3.  For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
 4.  When Christ, who is your  life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
 5.  Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.
 6.  Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.
 7.  You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived. 
 8.  But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.

1 Timothy 4:1
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

1 Timothy 4:16
 16.  Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.

1 Timothy 6:20-21
 20.  Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,
 21.  which some have professed and in so doing have wandered from the faith.   Grace be with you.
 

Titus 1:9-16
 9.  He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.
 10.  For there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group.
 11.  They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 12.  Even one of their own prophets has said, "Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons."
 13.  This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith
 14.  and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the commands of those who reject the truth.
 15.  To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.
 16.  They claim to know God, but by their actions they deny him. They are detestable, disobedient and unfit for doing anything good.
 

Hebrews 2:1-3
 1.  We must pay more careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away.
 2.  For if the message spoken by angels was binding, and every violation and disobedience received its just punishment,
 3.  how shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him.
 


301 posted on 05/19/2002 1:44:36 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: let freedom sing
Your post 243 was deleted by moderator. It was the OCD article you posted in response to my..."soft" bipolar disorder post. The "soft" and "hard" symptom descriptions were taken from books on Bipolar Disorder. Those with "soft" symptoms are those who don't have the disorder bad enough for friends and relatives to say "you need to see a doctor", but bad enough there something "off" about there relationships and responses.
332 posted on 05/20/2002 6:21:34 PM PDT by not-an-ostrich
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