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Why I Am Angry About the Bush Revelations
NewsMax ^ | 05/17/2002 | Christopher Ruddy

Posted on 05/17/2002 8:54:11 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: Horatio Bunce
They uphold a return to the Constitution.

Another "well duh" bumper sticker argument. Who the hell isn't?

41 posted on 05/18/2002 12:30:17 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Pokey78
Would the Democrats support going after Iraq tomorrow? The Bush administration could certainly use their "What and when" ranting to justify wiping out Iraq BEFORE something happens.

It's so hypocritical of the Left that is reluctant to use military action to be asking why it wasn't used prior to 9/11.

42 posted on 05/18/2002 12:42:19 AM PDT by Flyer
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To: Texasforever
Our government did not respond due to the fact that if they did, it would have been a serious blow to the globocrats agenda.

As a result, the Office of Homeland Security was created, and the public doesn't really know what it is. More government interference has taken place in order to "protect us from terror," and we see the Constitution is being undermined even more with the powers that arrests can be made without a clear understanding of why. This goes directly against our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.

Our nation cannot fall from outside forces, only from within. Unfortunately, we are self-destructing.

43 posted on 05/18/2002 12:43:29 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Horatio Bunce
Our government did not respond due to the fact that if they did, it would have been a serious blow to the globocrats agenda.

So, you are accusing our government of allowing this to happen in order to advance the NWO?

44 posted on 05/18/2002 12:44:57 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
You seem to think that the JBS is interested in setting up a Martial Law government, however your above statement agrees with mine that the JBS is in fact an organization that seeks to help restore the Constitution. A Constitutional Republic and Martial Law are very different from each other. So which are they for?
45 posted on 05/18/2002 12:47:19 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Jorge
It's almost as if that fundraising picture of the President on the phone to Cheney aboard Air Force 1 unleashed this tsunami of pent up bitterness, hate and bile that these media monkeys and the Dem strategists have been forced to hold in since the WTC was attacked. The onslaught since last Monday has been non-stop, they seamlessly segued from the overwrought outrage that Bush would use 9-11 for political purposes to a strategy where THEY and the Democrats are using 9-11 as a political bludgeon.

I can almost see Carville and Schrum going gonzo when that Bush campaign brochure was "discovered" .... it seems like this whole media overheating is the long hoped for, and planned, opportunity to direct their NUKES at Bush. Three thousand deaths are his fault. Typical Carville bull. The atmospheric pressure in the newsrooms and studions has no connection whatsoever to the importance of the stories, however. It has been a surreal week, and I can tell Bush is big time pissed right now at the sucker punches that have been coming his way.

Good, I want to see him go off on somebody. Leahy!!!

46 posted on 05/18/2002 12:48:27 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Texasforever
Exactly. We have become a spineless nation. There was a rebirth of Patriotism during the Reagan years, but even this was almost brought to an end by a failed assassination attempt. Reagan represented the truest, most noble ideas of Americanism. He did not back down. When he saw a threat, he identified it for what it was and built up our military so that we could defend ourselves against those threats.

But since that era, we have had a President that did not finish the job in Iraq, a President that gave away our military secrets for campaign money, and a President who starts off saying the right thing, but when informed of the globalist agenda, changes his tune.

47 posted on 05/18/2002 12:54:45 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Horatio Bunce
Does the Office of Homeland Security confuse and scare you?
48 posted on 05/18/2002 12:55:40 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Horatio Bunce
You seem to think that the JBS is interested in setting up a Martial Law government, however your above statement agrees with mine that the JBS is in fact an organization that seeks to help restore the Constitution. A Constitutional Republic and Martial Law are very different from each other. So which are they for?

The JBS is a group that claimed that fluoride in the drinking water was a communist plot, The JBS is a group that demonized Ronald Wilson Reagan as a "closet commie" the JBS is, was and forever will be a group made up of the lowest dregs of losers that blame their own lack of a life beyond their bunkers on the ever nebulous "they". You have not answered my question. DID THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT ALLOW 911 TO ADVANCE ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT?"

49 posted on 05/18/2002 12:56:05 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Horatio Bunce
Reagan represented the truest, most noble ideas of Americanism. He

If you actually believed that then you would use anything from the JBS as the toilet paper it is.

50 posted on 05/18/2002 12:58:29 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I believe Reagan to be a man of impecable character, despite some friction in his administration. It is no doubt while showing he had a spine, he was surrounded by globalists, including one George Bush Sr.

Besides, you are taking up the very same thing you are accusing the JBS of doing, and that is being a conspiracy theorist.

However, I do have my own oppinion. I think that you don't like the fact that they are willing to investigate the Republican's, the supposed "good guys" and disseminate the truth about them. The Democrats drive off a cliff with their foot on the gas. The Republican's drive off that same cliff with their foot hovering over the brake. Break down both party's agendas, and you see they are essentially the same in outlook. I am a conservative, and that is why I am not a Republican.

51 posted on 05/18/2002 1:12:38 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Horatio Bunce
Besides, you are taking up the very same thing you are accusing the JBS of doing, and that is being a conspiracy theorist.

Sorry friend I don't deal in "conspiricy" I deal in what the JBS has said in their own words Here

Now if you are an honest poster you will read the entire link and acknowledge that the JBS is what I said it is.

52 posted on 05/18/2002 1:20:43 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Tex, the person you're trying to debate joined 5/17/02, has already posted a thread, and replied to others, with trunks of tinfoil. Good luck wih this one. LOL
53 posted on 05/18/2002 1:24:55 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: blackbart.223
"The real question is why the American media gave Bill Clinton a free ride for eight years while he plundered national treasures such as the Lincoln Bedroom, politicized the FBI, gave away our nuclear and ballistic secrets to China, led the most corrupt administration in history – and yet and yet and yet, the liberal media have never viewed any of this as important."

The only change I'd make is

"the most corrupt, most fraudulent, most downright criminal Administration in History..."


54 posted on 05/18/2002 1:25:56 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: nopardons
Follwo that link I posted and substitute Bush for Reagan and you will start to understand what is going on on Free Republic lately.
55 posted on 05/18/2002 1:26:35 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Horatio Bunce
You're a newbie, wrapped from head to toe in tinfoil, and are blowing smoke. Either you don't recall, fully, what Reagan did and did NOT do , during his two terms in office, or you're being disengenuous.
56 posted on 05/18/2002 1:28:47 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
Did you take notice that the majority of the sources cited were liberal publications? And besides, there was little attack on Reagan, but mostly the attacks were directed at the people surrounding him.

Again, I do not deny that Reagan was surrounded by globalists. Despite that, he had a successful Presidency, but one that certainly could have gone farther into restoring the traditional America. That is what I see to be his biggest fault. However, he was our last great President.

57 posted on 05/18/2002 1:29:21 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Horatio Bunce
Did you take notice that the majority of the sources cited were liberal publications? And besides, there was little attack on Reagan, but mostly the attacks were directed at the people surrounding him.

THAT WAS A JBS PUBLICATION!. You are, as I suspected, the newest in a line of agenda driven CINOs from the nether regions.

58 posted on 05/18/2002 1:33:07 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: nopardons
What I do know is that he built up our military, made us stronger as a nation, and made us capable of defending ourselves. Could he have gone farther, certainly.

But you are sidestepping the issue. There is evidence that our Government knew what was going to happen. They did not do a single thing to stop it. Again, I don't believe that there is any known evidence indicating that Bush had prior knowledge, but certainly there were people in our Government who did, and did not do a thing about it or tried to do something about it but were not allowed to.

59 posted on 05/18/2002 1:35:31 AM PDT by Horatio Bunce
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To: Horatio Bunce
There is evidence that our Government knew what was going to happen.

Post the "evidence" then.

60 posted on 05/18/2002 1:39:22 AM PDT by Texasforever
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