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To: livius
He could have repented and spent the rest of his life in prayer and fasting, but the modern Church doesn't offer this possiblity.

I don't think you know what the "modern" Church offers. I contend that it's the "old" Church that encouraged the cover-up and the idea that all a pederast had to do was go to confession and his "sin" was behind him.

Which attitude, of course, has gotten us into this mess.

31 posted on 05/16/2002 6:24:23 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
. I contend that it's the "old" Church that encouraged the cover-up and the idea that all a pederast had to do was go to confession and his "sin" was behind him.

That is still true, Sinkspur. And you ought to know it. When any Catholic goes to Confession his or her sin is behind him in the eyes of God and that is all that matters. It has nothing to do with new or old Church. Please stop trying to split the Church up. The Church is ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC AND APOSTOLIC. Do you believe this in your "new" Church?

40 posted on 05/16/2002 6:32:20 PM PDT by Renatus
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To: sinkspur
Ah, sinky, surely you must know that without a firm purpose of amendment, absolution is not possible.

No. What has happened is that we have an entire younger generation of clergy/laity brought up on the social sin model (that is, capitalism is evil; what I do in my personal life is my own business), and an older generation of clergy who were encouraged to "let it all hang out," like a 60-ish professor I once had who turned up for class one day wearing "love-beads."

The problem is that the "new" Catholic Church has forgotten the absolutes. In fact, it has forgotten the four absolutes, formerly known as the Four Last Things: Death, Judgment, Heaven and Hell.

55 posted on 05/16/2002 7:07:35 PM PDT by livius
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