No bubble here. Just reality. Let me suggest Yale Prof. Louis Dupre's "Secular Philosophy and Its Origins at the Dawn of the Modern Age." This should clear up some of the intellectual background for grasping ontological presuppositions and the a priori/empiricism conflict integral to the contradiction in the original post with Jaynes, etc. This leg of the argument is rather exhaustively documented in the relevant literature.
Oh no, you pulled rank again and try to hide looking down at me... oh you wise authority figure -- NOT!!! I suspect that pope Urban would think highly of you.
What do you suppose would happen to all supernatural-God believing religions if documented evidence showed that conscious beings (obviously not conscious beings from Earth but elsewhere where they would be far more technologically advanced than Earth technology) created the Universe? What happens to all those scriptures? I'll tell you what happens, they all go into the garbage can.
This in part explains where Neo-Tech/Zonpower is coming from:
"To begin understanding how the dynamics of Neo-Tech work, go back four centuries: During the early 1580s, in the back of a classroom at the University of Pisa, sat a young student, hands folded behind his head. As usual, he sat quietly smiling at the professor. Trapped in their special-interest closed boundaries, professors feared, loathed, and pointedly avoided that student. The student was Galileo Galilei. He knew less than those learned authorities, yet, he outflanked them with ever-wider integrations and fully-integrated honesty. Galileo rendered their knowledge, words, and writings obsolete. They knew that; he knew that. Thus, they feared, loathed, and pointedly avoided him. Fifty years later, learned-authority Pope Urban would prosecute Galileo in the Inquisitions for obsoleting Catholic-church dogma. …Those authorities vanished from history. Galileo prevailed." -- PAX NEO-TECH